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Unread 07-19-2013, 01:31 AM   #1
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G'day Fellas,

As promised I just picked up my first 1917 Erfurt serial# 342 yesterday and just thought i'd share some pictures with you all. as I think I mentioned on my new members intro she was a bit rough around the edges but I still love it... call it a learner, first of many I hope ..

Could not make out unfortunately where the holster was made.. any tips?

Comments more than welcome.

Cheers Peg
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remerus,

Congrats on your first Luger! And be warned, these are contagious little things that enjoy the company of other P08s.

It seems you got yourself an honest 1917 Erfurt that has seen some action, I bet the experts will soon chime in. Good luck with this and future Lugers!

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Howdy Peg, As Balder has said, you've found yourself an honest old soldier. The ink stamped B.A.XI on the inside of the holster lid stands for Bekleidungs-Abteilung 11, the clothing depot serving the 11th Armee Korps, which was located in Kassel. If there is no stamped date or maker's name impressed in the leather then the holster is a very early one, as these markings were not required until 1911.
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Its an honest Erfurt, much like the 1921 I bought this last weekend. Hey, it is good to have all kinds of examples and history in your hands.

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GT on this forum can recondition those mags for u. He does great work at reasonable prices.

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Edit: I just noticed you were from Oz. the magazines are so light in weight that shipping to the US may not add that much more cost. may be worth looking into.
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Honest old warhorse....Congrats!! It will be a fine shooter for you...Enjoy.
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Howdy Peg, As Balder has said, you've found yourself an honest old soldier. The ink stamped B.A.XI on the inside of the holster lid stands for Bekleidungs-Abteilung 11, the clothing depot serving the 11th Armee Korps, which was located in Kassel. If there is no stamped date or maker's name impressed in the leather then the holster is a very early one, as these markings were not required until 1911.
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Thank you Norm for letting me know what the manufacturer was.
There is a rectangular stamp leather punch impressed on the center of the ink stamping roughly about 1" length x 1/2 " height that I can barely make out a 1917 possibly??
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remerus,

Congrats on your first Luger! And be warned, these are contagious little things that enjoy the company of other P08s.

It seems you got yourself an honest 1917 Erfurt that has seen some action, I bet the experts will soon chime in. Good luck with this and future Lugers!

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Ha ha yes very contagious I can see that from all of you lot

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Its an honest Erfurt, much like the 1921 I bought this last weekend. Hey, it is good to have all kinds of examples and history in your hands.

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Cheers Ed, They are great pieces IMO I'll have as many as I can lay my hands on... with the help of all of you wonderful I hope..

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Edit: I just noticed you were from Oz. the magazines are so light in weight that shipping to the US may not add that much more cost. may be worth looking into.
Cheers Jack, I have thought about that. although I may have to get some spares in the meantime to do while they are off getting repaired. also another thought I considered is that your postal service might have issues with sending gun parts, is that the case?

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Honest old warhorse....Congrats!! It will be a fine shooter for you...Enjoy.
I certainly am enjoying it, unfortunately I cannot shoot her as the barrel length is under 120mm which is the restriction over in draconian Australia.
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remerus -

Congrats on your first Luger, it appears to be one of the earliest made in 1917 (no suffix).
What's in the chamber?

You can own pistols with less than 120mm barrel but you cannot shoot them in AUS?
That just means you need to get yourself an artillery Luger - I hear they make the best shooters.

It occurs to me that assuming you own other weapons, how would anyone know if you actually shot your Luger?

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There are no restrictions shipping out these magazines or receiving them from/into the US. You must check your country's regulations.

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GT on this forum can recondition those mags for u. He does great work at reasonable prices.

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Edit: I just noticed you were from Oz. the magazines are so light in weight that shipping to the US may not add that much more cost. may be worth looking into.
Ditto what Jack said about GT, he is not only a craftsman but a gentlemen! Would love to see after pictures.
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Congrats on your first Luger, it appears to be one of the earliest made in 1917 (no suffix).
What's in the chamber?

You can own pistols with less than 120mm barrel but you cannot shoot them in AUS?
That just means you need to get yourself an artillery Luger - I hear they make the best shooters.

It occurs to me that assuming you own other weapons, how would anyone know if you actually shot your Luger?

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I own a few pistols, I suppose you are right who would know but on the other hand if I were to get caught I would loose them all along with my licence. Ha ha yes you are right I will have to get myself a artillery or at least a longer barrel as a spare.

She is chambered in 9mm.

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Ditto what Jack said about GT, he is not only a craftsman but a gentlemen! Would love to see after pictures.
I will have to send GT a pm and see if he is happy to work on them for me. be sure to post after pics for you all.

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No problem sending them out just have to deal with customs on the way in as they are restricted items so I just have to organize a permit for them on their return if customs picked them up.
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Hello Gents, It has been a long time between drinks and I hope you are all well!

After a long hiatus I have finally gotten off of my arse and dusted off my luger with new enthusiasm. I am currently working with a local Gunsmith to get a longer barrel fitted to my luger so I can enjoy her at the range (here in Oz a barrel of not less than 120mm is required to shoot a semiauto).

The Smith is acquiring his barrels from this company (See link below) and has agreed for a fair price to Blue, fit, and head space my pistol ready for me to collect some time in July of this year.


I did have a bit of a quandary as to weather to go the standard long setup or go for the "Marine" barrel as I have a spare navy toggle with attached sights that I could fit (not sure how much of a bear that process is but if not too complicated I could go that direction, are there any pros or cons to the above that I have not considered? https://www.lothar-walther.de/drop-i...oly-steel?c=65


I would also like to Thank GT (Has been far too overdue for a long time) for his excellent work and help with the refurbishment of two of my luger mags back a couple of years ago. I cannot state just how much of a gentleman this man is and his work is just spectacular. I will post some pictures of the mags in the next couple of days. If you need someone to help you with your mag repairs he is most definitely the man to speak with.

All the best Peg Aka Chris
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If possible, I would recommend just getting a second barrel or cannon assembly to shoot with. As is your gun is a fine collectible and changing the barrel length would severely devalue it.
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If possible, I would recommend just getting a second barrel or cannon assembly to shoot with. As is your gun is a fine collectible and changing the barrel length would severely devalue it.
Hi HerrKaiser, thank you for your reply.

I think you took me the wrong way I am getting a spare barrel and setting the original one aside so as to keep it.

My question was rather whether to get a standard long barrel 6 inch or to get myself a navy version of the barrel (new) and swap my toggle out for a navy version to suit. As far as I see this is all completely reversable is it not?
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P.s what is a cannon assembly
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Hi HerrKaiser, thank you for your reply.

I think you took me the wrong way I am getting a spare barrel and setting the original one aside so as to keep it.

My question was rather whether to get a standard long barrel 6 inch or to get myself a navy version of the barrel (new) and swap my toggle out for a navy version to suit. As far as I see this is all completely reversable is it not?
Reversible, for sure.

I'd go the navy route - they make a great shooter and look nice too!

Pictures of one I did that way for a friend.
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Reversible, for sure.

I'd go the navy route - they make a great shooter and look nice too!

Pictures of one I did that way for a friend.
Hi DonVoigt, I checked with the Smith unfortunately he has had issues in the past with the toggle fitment off other lugers So I am back to the standard setup with the 6" barrel.

How did you go with the build up of the one you pictured, Did it require much fenagling or did the parts just work?
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Remerus,

Sorry for my misreading, but I concur in getting a navy barrel to shoot with (6 inches). The “cannon” assembly is the upper part of a Luger and the barrel.
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