Looking to buy a Swiss

IrishArms · 03-01-2007, 09:38 PM

Hello gents,

I want to start getting into Lugers, specifically Swiss lugers. Could any of you recommend some good luger primary references and maybe some that are more specific on the Swiss variety. I read the post in the other forum here on references. I've had the chance to buy a couple, but my lack of knowledge in the area really prevented any such deals. Regards,

-Mac

var99 · 03-01-2007, 11:14 PM

HI Mac

"The" reference on Swiss Lugers is by Bobba, which you can find on ebay or at simpsons: http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...oducts_id=2625
who also have a large selection of Swiss lugers albeit at top prices.

Vince

Pete Ebbink · 03-02-2007, 12:18 AM

Mac,

If you are buying Swiss lugers from a dealer, you should also look to FGS, Inc.

Their web site has a Swiss luger section, but if you call Ken Clark or Doug Smith, they always have others not on the web site but are more than willing to send you photos of...they are not too good about updates on the site.

http://www.fgsinc.8m.com/

pillboxesghost · 03-02-2007, 09:04 AM

If you are not in a hurry; Bobba's book can be bought direct from Italy (on line) for about half (shipping included) of the US price. As I recall, it took about three weeks for delivery.

I second FGS as a excellent dealer to do business with.
Regards,
Jon Lewis

DCCUK · 03-02-2007, 09:48 AM

Hello Pete

Thanks for fgsinc link...
glad I was sitting down........
didn't realise some Lugers were worth so much.........
will now buy the 1915 DMW I was offered

BR DCCUK

Pete Ebbink · 03-02-2007, 11:12 AM

David,

There are 3 sellers of Swiss lugers in Switzerland that you might want to visit their web sites. They carry Swiss revolvers from time to time, as well. Not sure how it would work to get a gun from CH to the UK :

Andrew Zink :

http://www.augustus.ch/

Stefan Mahrer :

http://www.swissdagger.com/index.html

Dr. Paul Regnier :

http://www.luger-genesis.com/

IrishArms · 03-02-2007, 08:51 PM

Thanks for all the info.

I frequent the Simpsons and FGS web pages. I have also received some long rifles via Andrew and Stefan, very easy to work with.

How are the books recommeded here
http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...&threadid=6937
as far as production info, schematics, pictures, pistol variations, etc...? Or is there others that are better as far as these details are concerned? And which do you feel are the most important for starting in the general area of lugers? Regards,

-Mac

southriv · 03-04-2007, 09:33 PM

FGS - definately.

Bob

Pete Ebbink · 03-05-2007, 12:04 PM

Mac,

For a good "history lesson" in Lugers and the early days of collecting in the USA, the old books by Harry Jones (Luger Variations) and Fred Datig (The Luger Pistol) are wonderful.

Sure some of the info. is dated and not correct in year 2007 terms, but you get a lot of history and basic Luger facts. Back in the late 1950's and early 1960's...these authors can be criticized for getting "it wrong"...but even 45-50 years laters, I am amazed how much of their work they got right.

I also like the John Walter books (especially the one titled "The Luger Book").

Once you get a feel of which era or model of Luger you want to start out with, then the more recent books works specific to that area of collecting interest would help i.e. Kenyon, Bobba (Swiss lugers), Gibson (HK lugers), Still (Imperial, Weimar, and WWII lugers), Reese, Martins/de Vries (Dutch lugers), etc.

Guisan · 03-25-2007, 08:00 AM

Another good softcover book that I did not see mentioned is "Monograph IV The Swiss Variations 1897 - 1947" by Fred A. Datig, I think the last print was 1992.
Also the german "Pistolen und Revolver der Schweiz seit 1720" by Reinhart and Meier is good value for the money.

Guisan.

03-01-2007, 09:38 PM	#1
IrishArms New User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Looking to buy a Swiss Hello gents, I want to start getting into Lugers, specifically Swiss lugers. Could any of you recommend some good luger primary references and maybe some that are more specific on the Swiss variety. I read the post in the other forum here on references. I've had the chance to buy a couple, but my lack of knowledge in the area really prevented any such deals. Regards, -Mac

03-02-2007, 09:04 AM	#4
pillboxesghost User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Coastal NC Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you are not in a hurry; Bobba's book can be bought direct from Italy (on line) for about half (shipping included) of the US price. As I recall, it took about three weeks for delivery. I second FGS as a excellent dealer to do business with. Regards, Jon Lewis __________________ Jon Lewis

03-25-2007, 08:00 AM	#10
Guisan User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Another good softcover book that I did not see mentioned is "Monograph IV The Swiss Variations 1897 - 1947" by Fred A. Datig, I think the last print was 1992. Also the german "Pistolen und Revolver der Schweiz seit 1720" by Reinhart and Meier is good value for the money. Guisan. __________________ Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets. No surrender. Fight to the death. --Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40

03-01-2007, 11:14 PM	#2
var99 User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: FL Posts: 114 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	HI Mac "The" reference on Swiss Lugers is by Bobba, which you can find on ebay or at simpsons: http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...oducts_id=2625 who also have a large selection of Swiss lugers albeit at top prices. Vince

03-02-2007, 12:18 AM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Mac, If you are buying Swiss lugers from a dealer, you should also look to FGS, Inc. Their web site has a Swiss luger section, but if you call Ken Clark or Doug Smith, they always have others not on the web site but are more than willing to send you photos of...they are not too good about updates on the site. http://www.fgsinc.8m.com/

03-02-2007, 09:48 AM	#5
DCCUK User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N Somerset, UK Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Pete Thanks for fgsinc link... glad I was sitting down........ didn't realise some Lugers were worth so much......... will now buy the 1915 DMW I was offered BR DCCUK

03-02-2007, 11:12 AM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	David, There are 3 sellers of Swiss lugers in Switzerland that you might want to visit their web sites. They carry Swiss revolvers from time to time, as well. Not sure how it would work to get a gun from CH to the UK : Andrew Zink : http://www.augustus.ch/ Stefan Mahrer : http://www.swissdagger.com/index.html Dr. Paul Regnier : http://www.luger-genesis.com/

03-02-2007, 08:51 PM	#7
IrishArms New User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for all the info. I frequent the Simpsons and FGS web pages. I have also received some long rifles via Andrew and Stefan, very easy to work with. How are the books recommeded here http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...&threadid=6937 as far as production info, schematics, pictures, pistol variations, etc...? Or is there others that are better as far as these details are concerned? And which do you feel are the most important for starting in the general area of lugers? Regards, -Mac

03-04-2007, 09:33 PM	#8
southriv User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Countryside New England Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	FGS - definately. Bob

03-05-2007, 12:04 PM	#9
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Mac, For a good "history lesson" in Lugers and the early days of collecting in the USA, the old books by Harry Jones (Luger Variations) and Fred Datig (The Luger Pistol) are wonderful. Sure some of the info. is dated and not correct in year 2007 terms, but you get a lot of history and basic Luger facts. Back in the late 1950's and early 1960's...these authors can be criticized for getting "it wrong"...but even 45-50 years laters, I am amazed how much of their work they got right. I also like the John Walter books (especially the one titled "The Luger Book"). Once you get a feel of which era or model of Luger you want to start out with, then the more recent books works specific to that area of collecting interest would help i.e. Kenyon, Bobba (Swiss lugers), Gibson (HK lugers), Still (Imperial, Weimar, and WWII lugers), Reese, Martins/de Vries (Dutch lugers), etc.