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Unread 09-12-2022, 11:40 PM   #1
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Bill, my first Tisas 1911A1 was bought 7 years ago this month. The picture below shows the first target I ever shot with it using a center hold. I later bought the 1911A2 which was a series 80 action type. I sold the A2 to finance another purchase and sold the A1 recently to a neighbor who wanted a 1911. The one I own now is the "US ARMY" model that I purchased as a "Blem" for $320 NIB. The "blem"? The slide and frame are slightly different colors. These pistols are well made and do not have a single machine mark inside or out. The quality is far better than it has any right to be for the price.

I also have the Girsan MCP35 clone of the Browning HP. It is also of excellent quality.

The Turks are making some fine handguns at great prices. That's why I wouldn't hesitate to buy a reproduction Luger made by Tisas. I'm betting they'll be done right and it wouldn't surprise me if the parts interchanged with original Lugers just as the 1911 and HP parts do with original guns. Walker

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Do you think there is any chance they will also manufacture a Luger in .45 Caliber?

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Doubs, Do you think there is any chance they will also manufacture a Luger in .45 Caliber? Sieger
Wow, I have no idea but if they did, I'd surely buy one. I'm sure the quality would be excellent.
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Wow, I have no idea but if they did, I'd surely buy one. I'm sure the quality would be excellent.
Mauser almost did it. Quality was sufficient, but just like the originals, manufacturing costs were very high. IIRC, the selling price in the 70s was around $700, which seems great today, but was a helluva lot for any pistol back then. I remember seeing a couple of originals at a gun shop in the $350 range.

Houston guns made a splash for several years, but even reverse engineering a gun takes a lot of resources. Without a customer base to meet price points on a scale large enough to make a profit, they also faded away for this same reason.

Our buddy Eugene Golubstov has invested immense time and effort to make his facsimilie of the .45 1907 Luger, and what he charges is more than fair for what he's produced. We should note that after an initial rush to order them, I think enough to justify a couple or runs of 50, Lugers in the original variation he made are on sale for about 20% off ~ $4k.

Even with cheap foreign labor, I suspect any manufacture of new Lugers of any sort, of any quality, simply isn't particularly attractive to industry for, again, the same reasons of high cost to develop and make, and insufficient customer base.
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Even with cheap foreign labor, I suspect any manufacture of new Lugers of any sort, of any quality, simply isn't particularly attractive to industry for, again, the same reasons of high cost to develop and make, and insufficient customer base.
Just my opinion but with CNC machinery and the ability to hold very tight tolerances, I think a new Luger could be made at an attractive price.

While certainly not as intricate as the Luger, Tisas is able to make an excellent 1911 and the importer can make a profit at $400 or less. I would think that a Luger could be made and sold for under $1,000.
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