Hollow Point ammunition

britbit50 · 10-11-2013, 02:39 PM

Anyone been successful using any type of jhp ammunition in a Mauser 29/70 or 06/73 ?

I read somewhere that original ammunition used a truncated cone shaped bullet and that the Hornady Critical Defense 9mm bullet shape is kinda similar; not that I would dream of using it for self defense, but I like experimenting. Guess I'll spend the 25 bucks to give it a try otherwise.

ithacaartist · 10-11-2013, 04:09 PM

I think the Hornady round might be the right shape to follow the route into battery, but I'd wonder about the bullet's weight/charge relationship. It's usually recommended that +P, +P+, NATO, and other "hot" loads be avoided to reduce the risk of damaging the action/breaking something. Is this hollow point a high velocity round? I'd postpone the experiment till we hear more. Someone , I hope, with a more definitive answer should chime in here, so be patient...

rhuff · 10-14-2013, 04:31 PM

The load data for hollow point ammo is calculated to allow the bullet to expand when it strikes an object. Different HP bullets require different velocities to achieve this end. Therefore, they are usually loaded a bit hotter than FMJ bullets.

They do not have to be loaded to those level IF you don't need/want expansion of the bullet. I just loaded some Hornady XTP(HP) .309in bullets to 30 luger brass, and used my FMJ data for the same weight of bullet. they may or may not expand....I don't care, in that these are the ONLY .309in jacketed 92gr bullets that I can find to load.

JD · 10-16-2013, 04:21 PM

I've used Federal 115 grain 9BP ammo through both my Interams Mausers and a Finnish M-23 without a problem. The bullet has a rather rounded profile and feeds perfectly in my guns, and the ammo has a extremely good reputation as a defense round. It is also not a hot round at all and a bit on the mild side. I don't plan on using them as defense guns, but I did want to see if they would function with factory hollow point ammo.

I've also had very good luck in my reloads with Remington 115 grain and 124 grain jacketed hollow points, though you have to pay attention to the overall loaded length and load them out to about the max. length possible.

johnii · 12-12-2013, 01:11 PM

I use Federal (Bulk Ammunition) with 9BP 115 grain in both of my S/42s (1936 and 1937) without a problem. I wanted Winchester 115 gr Silvertips but they are not available anymore and so I went Federal 9BP lot number (for a thousand rounds) V23J597.

This ammunition works in both of my P-08s, both of my P-38s, my Hi Power (Browning) and my SIG P210.

I could not find decent ammunition especially in bulk at Walmart or Local Gun Shops or Cabella's or Bass and Pro. So I just ordered it from Bulk Ammo.

10-11-2013, 02:39 PM	#1
britbit50 User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Western NY Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hollow Point ammunition Anyone been successful using any type of jhp ammunition in a Mauser 29/70 or 06/73 ? I read somewhere that original ammunition used a truncated cone shaped bullet and that the Hornady Critical Defense 9mm bullet shape is kinda similar; not that I would dream of using it for self defense, but I like experimenting. Guess I'll spend the 25 bucks to give it a try otherwise.

10-11-2013, 04:09 PM	#2
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,282 Thanks: 7,007 Thanked 2,476 Times in 1,319 Posts	I think the Hornady round might be the right shape to follow the route into battery, but I'd wonder about the bullet's weight/charge relationship. It's usually recommended that +P, +P+, NATO, and other "hot" loads be avoided to reduce the risk of damaging the action/breaking something. Is this hollow point a high velocity round? I'd postpone the experiment till we hear more. Someone , I hope, with a more definitive answer should chime in here, so be patient... __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

10-14-2013, 04:31 PM	#3
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,270 Thanks: 2,686 Thanked 958 Times in 704 Posts	The load data for hollow point ammo is calculated to allow the bullet to expand when it strikes an object. Different HP bullets require different velocities to achieve this end. Therefore, they are usually loaded a bit hotter than FMJ bullets. They do not have to be loaded to those level IF you don't need/want expansion of the bullet. I just loaded some Hornady XTP(HP) .309in bullets to 30 luger brass, and used my FMJ data for the same weight of bullet. they may or may not expand....I don't care, in that these are the ONLY .309in jacketed 92gr bullets that I can find to load.

10-16-2013, 04:21 PM	#4
JD User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Western Washington Posts: 107 Thanks: 58 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts	I've used Federal 115 grain 9BP ammo through both my Interams Mausers and a Finnish M-23 without a problem. The bullet has a rather rounded profile and feeds perfectly in my guns, and the ammo has a extremely good reputation as a defense round. It is also not a hot round at all and a bit on the mild side. I don't plan on using them as defense guns, but I did want to see if they would function with factory hollow point ammo. I've also had very good luck in my reloads with Remington 115 grain and 124 grain jacketed hollow points, though you have to pay attention to the overall loaded length and load them out to about the max. length possible.

12-12-2013, 01:11 PM	#5
johnii User Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 52 Thanks: 13 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I use Federal (Bulk Ammunition) with 9BP 115 grain in both of my S/42s (1936 and 1937) without a problem. I wanted Winchester 115 gr Silvertips but they are not available anymore and so I went Federal 9BP lot number (for a thousand rounds) V23J597. This ammunition works in both of my P-08s, both of my P-38s, my Hi Power (Browning) and my SIG P210. I could not find decent ammunition especially in bulk at Walmart or Local Gun Shops or Cabella's or Bass and Pro. So I just ordered it from Bulk Ammo.