'Whiting' of proofs and markings

nieuwkot · 09-12-2005, 11:33 AM

So having cleaned up my 1916 DWM piece, what is used to highlight the proofs and DWM logo? Or is this something generally done only during a 'complete make over' and I should not screw up a matched piece by attempting on my own?

Thanks,
tony

Navy · 09-12-2005, 11:44 AM

Hi Tony,

The whitening is done by using a product called Laquerstik or a white grease pencil/china marker.

There are no particular protocols concerning doing it; some folks like the look and it enhances B&W photography.

I always remove the stuff with some Hoppes #9 when I put a piece up FS so that the prospective buyer can examine the gun easier.

Tom A.

Pete Ebbink · 09-12-2005, 12:07 PM

Hi Tony,

Here is the Laquer Stick product that Brownells' sells :

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/sto...ACQUER-STIK%7e

The "gesichert" on your 1916 P-08 would have factory enamel applied into the letters. This usually ages to a yellowish color and begins to flake off.

You should typically not try to remove this enamel as it is one indication of a gun's original finish condition.

nieuwkot · 09-12-2005, 01:56 PM

Well that seems easy, especially if some solvent will take it off later.

No signs of any factory enamel on any of the letters currently, so don't have to worry about.

thanks for the tips.

tony

Navy · 09-12-2005, 08:06 PM

When applying it, first clean (as in degrease) the area with acetone and then warm it with a hair dryer. It will take the laquer stick easier that way. Then, pop it into the fridge to solidify and make the overrun brittle. After 30 mins or so, a quick swipe with a cleaning patch 8slightly* moisened in Hoppe's will remove the excess from surrounding metal.

Tom A

hqbmw · 09-12-2005, 08:19 PM

Word: DON'T try to remove any excess with a razor blade. You needn't ask how I know.

Jack

nieuwkot · 09-14-2005, 08:58 AM

Was able to get ahold of a white china marker from the local bookstore so tried that out first.

Pleased with the results, except it didn't really work well for the "gesichert" of the safety. Guessing the marks are not as 'sharp' there so not as much of the marker material fills in there.

Some pics of the results:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/tony1.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/tony2.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/tony3.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/tony4.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/tony5.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/tony6.jpg

A.Mifsin · 09-14-2005, 01:17 PM

When I need to photograph one of my Lugers I just fill the proofs mark with chalk,which after I finish it could be brushed off and cleaned with some gun oil.
Alfred

09-12-2005, 11:33 AM	#1
nieuwkot User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Michigan Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	'Whiting' of proofs and markings So having cleaned up my 1916 DWM piece, what is used to highlight the proofs and DWM logo? Or is this something generally done only during a 'complete make over' and I should not screw up a matched piece by attempting on my own? Thanks, tony

09-12-2005, 08:19 PM	#6
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Word: DON'T try to remove any excess with a razor blade. You needn't ask how I know. Jack __________________ Jack Hiles Mesa AZ

09-14-2005, 08:58 AM	#7
nieuwkot User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Michigan Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Chinamarker try Was able to get ahold of a white china marker from the local bookstore so tried that out first. Pleased with the results, except it didn't really work well for the "gesichert" of the safety. Guessing the marks are not as 'sharp' there so not as much of the marker material fills in there. Some pics of the results: http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/tony1.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/tony2.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/tony3.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/tony4.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/tony5.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/tony6.jpg

09-14-2005, 01:17 PM	#8
A.Mifsin User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 570 Thanks: 74 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	When I need to photograph one of my Lugers I just fill the proofs mark with chalk,which after I finish it could be brushed off and cleaned with some gun oil. Alfred __________________ I prefer a Luger

09-12-2005, 11:44 AM	#2
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Hi Tony, The whitening is done by using a product called Laquerstik or a white grease pencil/china marker. There are no particular protocols concerning doing it; some folks like the look and it enhances B&W photography. I always remove the stuff with some Hoppes #9 when I put a piece up FS so that the prospective buyer can examine the gun easier. Tom A.

09-12-2005, 12:07 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Tony, Here is the Laquer Stick product that Brownells' sells : http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/sto...ACQUER-STIK%7e The "gesichert" on your 1916 P-08 would have factory enamel applied into the letters. This usually ages to a yellowish color and begins to flake off. You should typically not try to remove this enamel as it is one indication of a gun's original finish condition.

09-12-2005, 01:56 PM	#4
nieuwkot User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Michigan Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well that seems easy, especially if some solvent will take it off later. No signs of any factory enamel on any of the letters currently, so don't have to worry about. thanks for the tips. tony

09-12-2005, 08:06 PM	#5
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	When applying it, first clean (as in degrease) the area with acetone and then warm it with a hair dryer. It will take the laquer stick easier that way. Then, pop it into the fridge to solidify and make the overrun brittle. After 30 mins or so, a quick swipe with a cleaning patch 8slightly* moisened in Hoppe's will remove the excess from surrounding metal. Tom A