1906 Commercial NAZI ENGRAVED

Mike B · 12-07-2012, 07:44 PM

OK, I hear you; an '06 commercial with Nazi engraving??? Can't be. Here is the story:

I have a very good friend who is a Luger collector/dealer. He is foreign to computers as much as Columbus would have been to a GPS. With that said, he asked me put this Luger on our forum to get opinions. He acquired it at a gunshow on the north side of New Orleans. He told me an elderly gentleman, (looked to be in his 80's) walked into the show, went straight to his table and asked him if would be interested in buying his Luger. He said he acquired this Luger way back just after World War II when he lived in Germany. He told my friend that the person he got it from had an SS tattoo on his wrist and that it was it his personal side arm during the war. OK sounds like Hollywood; maybe so, but it sure does explain the Nazi engraving. Oh, BTW, the extractor is not in English and there is not a GERMANY proof or any other proof. There is the word "Germany" on the small medallion on the grips, but I would not consider this a proof mark.

Opinions welcome please.

Thanks,
Mike

Mike B · 12-07-2012, 08:50 PM

Plated

Edward Tinker · 12-07-2012, 09:00 PM

I am not a fan on swatikas, but I'd own this

policeluger · 12-08-2012, 12:19 AM

Should the eagle be facing to his right?

lugerholsterrepair · 12-08-2012, 12:41 AM

In general yes..German Eagles could face either way on occasions but take SS Enlisted buckles for instance..Always to the right. The Eagle on some very few Army buckles face left and are considered rare.

hansfischer007 · 12-08-2012, 12:54 AM

I believe the story is total BS....the German SS did NOT have tatoos on their wrist....they had their Blood Type tatooed under their left arm.....I lived in Germany for over two years ..my Family is German ..and a close friend of mine over there was in the SS during WW2.....fought on the Russian Front.......he told me about the "Blood tattoos".......also told me how after the war....he burned the tatoo off with a hot cigar......IMHO ..I believe the Luger is a Post War GI Fantasy Luger......but thats just my $0.02.........

Grantas · 12-08-2012, 02:33 AM

A lot of work has gone into this at some stage.

CAP Black · 12-08-2012, 09:43 AM

I certainly couldn't do that work but I would expect the lines of the engraving to be sharped and crisper. Perhaps not done by an expert??
The stories aren't mutually exclusive.
So it doesn't look like a presentation piece. It could still be what it's described as: purchased by him (commercial number), used during the war, engraved and kept for all those years.
Jack

Patronen · 12-08-2012, 09:49 AM

I am not an expert on engraving, but I agree with the work that it must have took some time to do. There is probably some truth to the story. The elderly gentleman in his 80's probably did get it in Germany, but the rest of the tale given to him sounds tall.

CJS57 · 12-08-2012, 10:21 AM

Well it has a "certain somthing" that makes it attractive overall. But it is apprentice level engraving and is certainly post war done. So it is a fantasy gun. Still I would own it, just as a nice conversation piece. Sort of the ultimate example of the post war nickel plated Luger that was "taken from the hands of the dying German General".

Ice · 12-08-2012, 07:02 PM

I like it and it would be a prize for me just because it is unique. Cool find.

Charlie

DavidJayUden · 12-08-2012, 07:25 PM

I'd love to pull that one out of the bag at the range and just feel the stares...
dju

wlyon · 12-08-2012, 09:46 PM

I'm sorry but that is one ugly luger. Bill

policeluger · 12-08-2012, 11:14 PM

Bill...ditto big time

lugerholsterrepair · 12-08-2012, 11:27 PM

Bill..I would be a little nervous about the integrity of the barrel with that swas dug into it so deep..

Ron Wood · 12-08-2012, 11:35 PM

That is a fairly early 1906 9mm. Too bad about the bling.

Vlim · 12-09-2012, 07:41 AM

Looks like a genuine DWM product to me, provided you read DWM as 'Durango Waffenfabrik Mexico'.

glock30 · 12-09-2012, 08:13 PM

Ditto Bil is RIGHT, It almost look like an Aurora Plastic model kit that they spray painted with testors chrome spray. This Luger is odious. I don't think this is a German piece at all, as meaning engraved by a Nazi, or in no shape or form do I think this is connected to anything German, A bring back, and the owner got a hair up his behind to ruin it.

12-07-2012, 07:44 PM	#1
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	1906 Commercial NAZI ENGRAVED OK, I hear you; an '06 commercial with Nazi engraving??? Can't be. Here is the story: I have a very good friend who is a Luger collector/dealer. He is foreign to computers as much as Columbus would have been to a GPS. With that said, he asked me put this Luger on our forum to get opinions. He acquired it at a gunshow on the north side of New Orleans. He told me an elderly gentleman, (looked to be in his 80's) walked into the show, went straight to his table and asked him if would be interested in buying his Luger. He said he acquired this Luger way back just after World War II when he lived in Germany. He told my friend that the person he got it from had an SS tattoo on his wrist and that it was it his personal side arm during the war. OK sounds like Hollywood; maybe so, but it sure does explain the Nazi engraving. Oh, BTW, the extractor is not in English and there is not a GERMANY proof or any other proof. There is the word "Germany" on the small medallion on the grips, but I would not consider this a proof mark. Opinions welcome please. Thanks, Mike Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

12-07-2012, 09:00 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,932 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,528 Times in 2,091 Posts	I am not a fan on swatikas, but I'd own this __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-08-2012, 12:41 AM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,931 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	In general yes..German Eagles could face either way on occasions but take SS Enlisted buckles for instance..Always to the right. The Eagle on some very few Army buckles face left and are considered rare. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-08-2012, 12:54 AM	#6
hansfischer007 User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sunny Tennessee Posts: 233 Thanks: 509 Thanked 96 Times in 48 Posts	SS Luger.? I believe the story is total BS....the German SS did NOT have tatoos on their wrist....they had their Blood Type tatooed under their left arm.....I lived in Germany for over two years ..my Family is German ..and a close friend of mine over there was in the SS during WW2.....fought on the Russian Front.......he told me about the "Blood tattoos".......also told me how after the war....he burned the tatoo off with a hot cigar......IMHO ..I believe the Luger is a Post War GI Fantasy Luger......but thats just my $0.02.........

12-08-2012, 09:43 AM	#8
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	What little I know I certainly couldn't do that work but I would expect the lines of the engraving to be sharped and crisper. Perhaps not done by an expert?? The stories aren't mutually exclusive. So it doesn't look like a presentation piece. It could still be what it's described as: purchased by him (commercial number), used during the war, engraved and kept for all those years. Jack

12-07-2012, 08:50 PM	#2
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	Plated

12-08-2012, 12:19 AM	#4
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Should the eagle be facing to his right?

12-08-2012, 02:33 AM	#7
Grantas Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: New Zealand Posts: 55 Thanks: 274 Thanked 26 Times in 20 Posts	A lot of work has gone into this at some stage.

12-08-2012, 09:49 AM	#9
Patronen User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 312 Thanks: 335 Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts	I am not an expert on engraving, but I agree with the work that it must have took some time to do. There is probably some truth to the story. The elderly gentleman in his 80's probably did get it in Germany, but the rest of the tale given to him sounds tall. __________________ Dave

12-08-2012, 10:21 AM	#10
CJS57 User Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 224 Thanks: 0 Thanked 81 Times in 41 Posts	Well it has a "certain somthing" that makes it attractive overall. But it is apprentice level engraving and is certainly post war done. So it is a fantasy gun. Still I would own it, just as a nice conversation piece. Sort of the ultimate example of the post war nickel plated Luger that was "taken from the hands of the dying German General".

12-08-2012, 07:02 PM	#11
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	I like it and it would be a prize for me just because it is unique. Cool find. Charlie

12-08-2012, 07:25 PM	#12
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I'd love to pull that one out of the bag at the range and just feel the stares... dju

12-08-2012, 09:46 PM	#13
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,635 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,556 Times in 954 Posts	I'm sorry but that is one ugly luger. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

12-08-2012, 11:14 PM	#14
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Bill...ditto big time

12-08-2012, 11:27 PM	#15
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,931 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Bill..I would be a little nervous about the integrity of the barrel with that swas dug into it so deep.. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-08-2012, 11:35 PM	#16
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	That is a fairly early 1906 9mm. Too bad about the bling. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

12-09-2012, 07:41 AM	#17
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Looks like a genuine DWM product to me, provided you read DWM as 'Durango Waffenfabrik Mexico'.

12-09-2012, 08:13 PM	#18
glock30 User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Obama LAND Posts: 206 Thanks: 18 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts	Ditto Bil is RIGHT, It almost look like an Aurora Plastic model kit that they spray painted with testors chrome spray. This Luger is odious. I don't think this is a German piece at all, as meaning engraved by a Nazi, or in no shape or form do I think this is connected to anything German, A bring back, and the owner got a hair up his behind to ruin it.