At least this one is real

[tenbears]

I know what you mean I spent three years off and on in Northern Ireland during the late seventies working for our Air Force. At the time their was a small WWII base still being used by us mostly for cattle inspection for the commissary's in England.

[Madcow]

I just got this pic from my uncle in the mail today. When I get a chance I will get it scanned and cleaned up a bit, but this is an ORIGINAL photo taken at the end of the war. I am absolutly giddy to have this.

[George Anderson]

Originally Posted by GerColctor

Quite a few of the Navy 1906 models ended up on the bottom of the ocean. Nice to see one that finally made it back.

Joe

Actually probably few "Navies" ended up on the bottum of the ocean. Far more ended up back in port or on the battlefields of Flanders.

[lugerholsterrepair]

George brings up a good point...Actually probably few "Navies" ended up on the bottum of the ocean. Far more ended up back in port or on the battlefields of Flanders.

Many German Navy vessels were not actually sunk in WW1. It was WW2 that the German Navy was decimated. WW1 was a capitulation and most of the Sailors & ships returned to port. I knew that but like Joe I had often thought the same...

Thanks George!

Jerry Burney

[Norme]

Actually the Imperial Grand Fleet was sunk. By the terms of the armistice, the bulk of the fleet was interned at Scapa Flow, the British naval base in Scotland. Then, on June 21st 1919, the German crews scuttled their ships, rather then turn them over to the Allies. It's unclear whether their issue Lugers were still onboard. Regards, Norm

[lugerholsterrepair]

Norm, This is a list of the surviving ships. If one were to look at a list of Navy Lugers on each on it would ba an impressive haul of Navy Lugers!

Fates of Surviving Austro-Hungarian Warships



The following tables, which show the fates of the warships of the former Austro-Hungarian Empire at the end of the war, has been taken from Warship International number 1, 1998: the answer to "Infoser" question 6/97.
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Battleships
Cruisers
Light Cruisers
Destroyers / Torpedo Boats
Submarines
River Craft
Minesweepers
Patrol Boat
Repair Ship
Depot Ships
Tankers
Yachts
Transports
Salvage Ships
Water Carriers
Tugs
Dredge
Hulks

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Battleships
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Ship Transferred to New Name/Fate

Tegetthoff Italy scrapped 1924-1925
Prinz Eugen France sunk as gunnery target 1922
Radetzky Italy scrapped 1926
Zrinyi Italy scrapped 1921
Erzherzog Franz Ferdinand Italy scrapped 1921
Erzherzog Friedrich United Kingdom scrapped 1921
Erzherzog Ferdinand Max United Kingdom scrapped 1921
Erzherzog Karl France scrapped 1921
Habsburg United Kingdom scrapped 1922/1923
Arpad United Kingdom scrapped 1922/1923
Babenberg United Kingdom scrapped 1922/1923
Monarch United Kingdom scrapped 1921
Budapest United Kingdom scrapped 1921
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Cruisers
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Ship Transferred to New Name/Fate

Kaiser Karl VI United Kingdom scrapped 1921-1923
Sankt Georg United Kingdom scrapped 1921-1923
Kaiserin und Koenigin Maria Theresia United Kingdom scrapped 1921-1923
Admiral Spaun United Kingdom scrapped 1921-1923
Aspern United Kingdom scrapped 1921-1923
Szigetvar United Kingdom scrapped 1921-1923
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Ship Transferred to New Name/Fate

Helgoland Italy Brindisi, stricken 1937 and subsequently scrapped
Saida Italy Venezia, stricken 1937 and subsequently scrapped
Novara France Thionville, gunnery & torpedo training ship, scrapped 1942
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Destroyers / Torpedo Boats
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Balaton Italy Zenson, not commissioned, stricken 1923 and scrapped
Csepel Italy Muggia lost 25 March 1929 off China coast
Dukla France Matelot Leblanc, sold for scrap 1936
Lika (II) Italy Cortellazzo, stricken 1937
Orjen Italy Pola, renamed Zenson 1931, stricken 1937 and scrapped
Tatra Italy Fasana, not commissioned, stricken 1923 and scrapped
Triglav (II) Italy Grado, stricken 1937
Ulan Greece Smyrni, stricken 1932
Uzsok Italy Monfalcone, stricken 1937
Satellit France scrapped 1921
Pandur France scrapped 1921
Reka France scrapped 1921
Panther United Kingdom scrapped 1921
Leopard United Kingdom scrapped 1921
Zara Italy scrapped 1921
Spalato Italy scrapped 1921
Sebinico Italy scrapped 1921
Meteor Italy scrapped 1921
Blitz Italy scrapped 1921
Komet Italy scrapped 1921
Planet Italy scrapped 1921
Trabant Italy scrapped 1921
Magnet Italy scrapped 1921
Scharfschuetze Italy scrapped 1921
Uskoke Italy scrapped 1921
Turul Italy scrapped 1921
Csikos Italy scrapped 1921
Velebit Italy scrapped 1921
Dinara Italy scrapped 1921
Huszar (II) Italy scrapped 1921
Warasdiner Italy scrapped 1921
T1 Italy scrapped 1921
T2 Italy scrapped 1921
T3 Italy Guardia Finanza/Customs launch, until 1925
T4 Italy scrapped 1921
T5 Italy scrapped 1921
T6 Italy scrapped 1921
T7 Italy Guardia Finanza/Customs launch, until 1925
T8 United Kingdom sold for scrap
T9 United Kingdom sold for scrap
T10 United Kingdom sold for scrap
T13 France scrapped 1921
T14 United Kingdom sold for scrap
T15 France scrapped 1921
T16 France scrapped 1921
T17 France scrapped 1921
T18 United Kingdom sold for scrap
T19 (x-Kibitz) Yugoslavia D4, in service until 1941
T20 Italy scrapped 1921
T21 (x-Staar) Yugoslavia D1, in service until 1924/25
T22 Italy Guardia Finanza/Customs launch, until 1925
T23 Italy scrapped 1921
T24 Italy Guardia Finanza/Customs launch, until 1925
T25 Italy Guardia Finanza/Customs launch, until 1925
T29 Italy Guardia Finanza/Customs launch, until 1925
T30 Italy scrapped 1921
T31 Italy scrapped 1921
T32 Italy Guardia Finanza/Customs launch, until 1925
T36 (x-Yhu) Yugoslavia D2, became Italian D10 in 1941, captured by Germans 1943, scuttled 1944
T37 Italy scrapped 1921
T38 (x-Kranich) Yugoslavia D3, in service until 1924/25
T39 Italy scrapped 1921
T40 Italy scrapped 1921
T50 United Kingdom scrapped
51T United Kingdom scrapped
53T United Kingdom scrapped
54T (x-Wal) Yugoslavia T12, decommissioned 1924
55T United Kingdom scrapped
56T United Kingdom scrapped
57T United Kingdom scrapped
58T United Kingdom scrapped
59T United Kingdom scrapped
60T (x-Schwalbe) Yugoslavia T9, decommissioned 1924
61T (x-Pinguin) Yugoslavia T10, decommissioned 1924
62T United Kingdom scrapped
63T United Kingdom scrapped
64T United Kingdom scrapped
65T United Kingdom scrapped
66T United Kingdom scrapped
67T United Kingdom scrapped
68T United Kingdom scrapped
69F (x-Polyp) Yugoslavia T11, decommissioned 1924
70T United Kingdom scrapped
71T United Kingdom scrapped
72T United Kingdom scrapped
73T United Kingdom scrapped
74T Roumania Viforul, stricken 1932
75T Roumania Vartejul, stricken 1932
76T Yugoslavia T1, became Italian T1 1941, Croatian T1 1943, Yugoslav Golesnica 1945, in service until 1959
77T Yugoslavia T2, decommissioned 1939 and scrapped
78T Yugoslavia T3, became Italian T3 1941, commissioned as Croatian TA48 1944, sank 1945, scrapped 1947
79T Yugoslavia T4 total loss 1932
80T Roumania Vijelia, stricken 1932
81T Roumania Sborul, scrapped 1959/60
82F Roumania Naluca, sunk 1944
83F Roumania Smeul scrapped 1959/60
84F Roumania Fulgerul, capsized 1922
85F Portugal Zezere total loss 1921
86F Portugal Ave decommissioned 1940
87F Yugoslavia T5, became Italian T5 1941, Croatian T5 1943, Yugoslav Cer 1945, in service until 1963
88F Portugal Cavado, total loss 1921
89F Portugal Sado, decommissioned 1940
90F Portugal Liz, decommissioned 1934
91F Portugal Mondego, decommissioned 1938
92F Greece Proussa scuttled 1941
93F Yugoslavia T6, Italian T6 1941, scuttled 1943
94F Greece Panormos, sank 1928
95F Greece Pergamos, scuttled 1941
96F Yugoslavia T7, became Italian T7 1941, Croatian T7 1943, total loss 1944
97F Yugoslavia T8, became Italian T8 1941, sunk 1943
98M Greece Kyzikos, scuttled 1941
99M Greece Kios, scuttled 1941
100M Greece Kidonia, sunk 1941
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Submarines
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Ship Transferred to New Name/Fate

U1 Italy scrapped
U2 Italy scrapped
U4 France scrapped
U5 Italy scrapped
U10 Italy scrapped
U11 Italy scrapped
U15 Italy scrapped
U17 Italy scrapped
U21 Italy scrapped
U23 France scrapped
U27 Italy scrapped
U28 Italy scrapped
U29 Italy scrapped
U31 France scrapped
U32 Italy scrapped
U40 Italy scrapped
U41 France scrapped
U43 France scrapped
U47 France scrapped
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River Craft
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Ship Transferred to New Name/Fate

Barsch (M) Hungary Baja
Bodrog Yugoslavia Sava scuttled 1941, recommissioned by Croat Navy as Sava, stricken 1962
Bosna Yugoslavia Vardar scuttled 1941
Compo (x-N) Hungary Gyor
Csuka K Austria Birago
Enns Yugoslavia Drava, sunk 1941
Fogas I Hungary Godollo
Inn Roumania Basarabia
Koros Yugoslavia Morava scuttled 1941, salvaged by Croat Navy as Bonsa, sunk 1944
Lachs (x-Q) Hungary Komarom
Sava Roumania Bucovina
Stor P Austria Stor
Stor (II) Hungary Sopron
Temes Roumania Ardeal
Viza (x-O) Hungary Kecskemet
Wels (x-L) Hungary Szeged
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Minesweepers
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T53 Italy N81
MT130 (x-MT.XXIX) Italy RD58,later Albona
MT131 (x-MT.XXX) Italy RD59, later Laurana
MT132 (x-MT.XXXI) Italy RD60, later Rovigno
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Patrolboat
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Ship Transferred to New Name/Fate

MTB107 Italy MTB107
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Repair Ship
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Ship Transferred to New Name/Fate

Cyklop Yugoslavia Perun
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Depot Ships
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Gaa Italy San Giusto
Wein Italy Vienna later Po
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Tankers
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Ship Transferred to New Name/Fate

Najade Yugoslavia Sitnica
Vesta Italy Marte
Nymphe Italy Livenza
?? Italy Prometo
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Yachts
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Ship Transferred to New Name/Fate

Taurus (x-Nirvana) Italy Marechiaro
Lussin Italy Sorrento
Dalmat Italy Fata, became Croatian Vial 1943, then Admrialty Yacht Orjen 1945, later floating restaurant Istranka, "at Split, still in existance and currently for sale (1998) - the only existing relic of the former AH Navy!
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Transports
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Ship Transferred to New Name/Fate

Amalfi Italy Cherso
Marsala Italy Lussin
Pola Italy Fianona
Teodo Italy Barbana
Vesta (x-Etelka) Italy Marte
R. Von Bilinski Italy Generale Turba
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Salvage Ships
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Ship Transferred to New Name/Fate

Gigant Yugoslavia Mocni
Herkules Italy Teseo
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Water Carriers
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Ship Transferred to New Name/Fate

Nymphe Italy Livenza
Nixe Italy Ticino
Najade Yugoslavia Stinica, became Italian Curzola in 1941, Yugoslav Stinica 1943, renamed Vis 1945, later Miner (PB21), deleted 1962
WT250 Yugoslavia Lovcen, became Italian Cherca 1941, the Yugoslav PV21
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Tugs
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Aurora Italy RN79
Dolphin Italy Porto Empedocle
Titan Italy RN56
Vermaco Yugoslavia Marljvi became Italian Diligente 1941, Yogoslav R23 1945, later PR56, then PP21
D1 - D4 Italy RN58 - RN61
FT1 - FT3 Italy RN91 - RN93
T1 Italy RN62
T4 - T7 Italy RN63 RN66
T10 - T13 Italy RN67 RN70
T20 - T21 Italy RN71 - RN72
T24 - T25 Italy RN73 - RN74
T50 - T51 Italy RN75 - RN76
T53 - T55 Italy RN81 - RN83
T57 - T58 Italy RN84 - RN85
T63 Italy RN57
T65 - T66 Italy RN94 - RN95
T67 - T68 Italy RN86 - RN87
T69 Italy RN80
T90 - T91 Italy RN77 - RN78
T97 (x-Hipos) Italy Capo D'Istria
T98 (x-Buffel) Italy Medolino
T99 (x-Pluto) Italy Volosca
T101 Italy RN89
T102 Italy Spartivento
T103 Italy Porto Rose
T104 Italy Vieste, later RN96
T105 Yugoslavia Snazni, became Italian Resistente 1941, Yugoslav R25, later PR55, deleted 1959
T106 Italy RN90
T160 Italy Pirano
T161 Italy Parenzo
T162 Yugoslavia Ustrajni became Italian Duratero 1941, then Yugoslav R21, later PR54, deleted 1957
T163 Italy Circeo
T200 Yugoslavia Silni became Italian Silni 1941, then Yugoslav Pertinace
T201 Italy ?
T202 Italy ?
7 units of 47 ton class Yugoslavia ?
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Dredge
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Ship Transferred to New Name/Fate

Austria Italy Porto Rosega
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Hulks
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Ship Transferred to New Name/Fate

Donau II Yugoslavia Sibenik became Italian Krka 1941, sunk
Feuersppeier Italy Butafuco
ex-Erzherzog Albrecht Frundsberg Yugoslavia Zlarin, became Italian Krivosij 1941, sunk
Kaiser Max Yugoslavia Tivat, became Italian Neretva 1941, sunk
Alpha (ex yacht Greif) Italy scrapped
Beta (ex paddle steamer Kaiserin Elisabeth) Italy scrapped
Bellona (ex-ship of the line) Italy scrapped
Custozza (former ironclad) Italy scrapped 1920
Gamma (ex-corvette Fasana) Italy broken up 1926
Kronprinzessin Erzherzogin Stephanie (former ironclad) Italy scrapped 1926
Minerva (ex-corvette Saida) Italy scrapped
Schwarzenburg (ex-frigate Laudon) Yugoslavia seized by Italy 1919 and broken up
Mars (ex-coast defence ship Tegetthoff) Italy training ship, broken up 1923



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[Sieger]

Jerry:

I believe you have the rong Navy, as the Austirans didn't issue Lugers during WWI

Sieger

[lugerholsterrepair]

Bob, Read thru the list of ships...For example the submarines. These ALL had Lugers issued.

Jerry Burney


U1 Italy scrapped
U2 Italy scrapped
U4 France scrapped
U5 Italy scrapped
U10 Italy scrapped
U11 Italy scrapped
U15 Italy scrapped
U17 Italy scrapped
U21 Italy scrapped
U23 France scrapped
U27 Italy scrapped
U28 Italy scrapped
U29 Italy scrapped
U31 France scrapped
U32 Italy scrapped
U40 Italy scrapped
U41 France scrapped
U43 France scrapped
U47 France scrapped

[Sieger]

Jerry:

I don't think the Austrian Navy issued German pistols to their crews, but I might be mistaken.

Has anyone out there ever seen a WWI Navy Luger with an Austrian Acceptance Proof Mark on it?

Are there such things as Austrian WWI Navys?

Sieger

[lugerholsterrepair]

During the period of the Second Empire (1871 - 1918), Germany was composed of quasi independent states, each of which, while having an overall fielty to the Kaiser, fielded its own armed forces. As a result, the German forces in World War One actually consisted of the armies of the various states, including those of Prussia, Bavaria, Wurttemburg and Saxony.

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

During the period of the Second Empire (1871 - 1918), Germany was composed of quasi independent states, each of which, while having an overall fielty to the Kaiser, fielded its own armed forces. As a result, the German forces in World War One actually consisted of the armies of the various states, including those of Prussia, Bavaria, Wurttemburg and Saxony.

Jerry:

I agree with the above statement, but the Oesterreich (Austro-Hungarian Empire) was not part of Imperial Germany during this period.

Hitler, however, had other ideas, and Austria (die Ostmark) was made part of the Third Empire, by popular vote I might add, in 1938.

Sieger

[George Anderson]

I think you fellows are missing the point, whereas a couple of capitol ships and many submarines were sent to the bottum during the war, the vast majority of the Imperial German fleet was surrendered to the victors after 1918. It is silly to think that these vessels would have been delivered with munitions, sidearms, rations or full crews aboard. Hell the red sailors' revolution in Northern Germany at the end of the war resulted in many sailors forming red brigades and arming themselves with naval sidearms. Others formed Freikorp units to counter the reds.

[lugerholsterrepair]

375 U-boats were commissioned during WW1

183 U-boats lost during 1914-1918.

This makes about half of them survived in one way or another. That's one heck of a lot of Navy Lugers either way!

I am not quite sure how many Lugers were issued to each U-boat...Must have been 6-8 I suspect.

I agree with George..Many made it back to port into the hands of the mutineers and ground forces.

Jerry Burney