RIA Regional Auction Catalog is up...

ithacaartist · 05-08-2015, 12:18 PM

It has this lot http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie.../1025/lid/2601 A new one on me, but I was born yesterday. Anyone know anything about this contraption? I wish they had more pics.

spacecoast · 05-18-2015, 11:37 AM

Discussed here

http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...ation-at-R-I-A

sheepherder · 06-13-2015, 01:28 PM

Dave didn't put a date in his thread title [

] so I don't know if this is the same auction, but I got the June 26/27/28 2015 Regional Auction catalog about a week ago...340 pages...B&W...

Nothing I can't live without in this auction...

But what is odd is that I got an email from a RIAC 'Customer Service Representative' on the 11th 'reminding me' about the auction and that they sent me a catalog...

The really odd part is the "CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE" at the end of the email...Saying that everything contained within was "protected by and subject to the attorney-client privilege or be privileged work product or proprietary information."

Uh, I didn't appoint RIAC as my representative or agree to any secrecy clause...And there's nothing in the email that isn't on the RIAC site...

Anybody else get this BS email???

Seems counter productive...Telling prospective bidders to NOT tell anyone else about the RIAC auction...

And that's all it is...Just a reminder about the auction...

Mac Cat · 06-13-2015, 04:28 PM

They started calling me and leaving voice mail, which I didn't exactly request. I did sign-up and placed a few bids on their last auction, but I hated their whole auction process and I wasn't going to pay for a proxy. Won't bother again and the mark-up's were horrible. I've only had two email reminders, but they were both very generic.

sheepherder · 06-13-2015, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac Cat

They started calling me and leaving voice mail...

I've had them leave messages on my answering machine; no problem. Just reminders about upcoming auctions.

This email is the first time I've been warned not to discuss it...

I sent an email to RIAC asking if this guy (he left a name) works there or if it's phishing...

Diver6106 · 06-13-2015, 09:48 PM

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=34420

I get the catalog for free and they usually make a call to follow up and remind me. They have my email, but seem to like the personal touch for my follow ups. I don't mind and like the free catalog for review.

spacecoast · 06-15-2015, 11:59 AM

I got a phone call as well.

ithacaartist · 06-15-2015, 12:26 PM

2 phone calls and a B & W catalog.

sheepherder · 06-15-2015, 03:01 PM

I went directly to the RIAC main site, signed in, and left a msg on the "instant chat" section...Asking if the email from the Customer Service Rep was phishing or actual...And about the "Confidentiality Notice"...I got this response [in part] -

Mr. [sheepherder],

Thank you for your email. RIAC Customer Service Representative [omitted] does work with Rock Island Auction Company. The confidentiality notice is present as this email was sent as a personal transmission to you directly. It was not sent as a mass email reminder of the upcoming auction, but a personal email to remind you about the upcoming sale. As you are the intended recipient feel free to pass along the information of our upcoming sale to any friends, relatives, or neighbors you think may be interested. If I can further address your concerns or be of any additional assistance please do not hesitate to let me know.

Sincerely,

[ommitted]
Customer Service Team Lead | Rock Island Auction Company

The email from the "Team Lead" also contains the "Confidentiality Notice"...

alvin · 06-21-2015, 01:59 PM

Ian has some special interest on some special items, and posted excellent reviews on youtube.com. If interested, here are a few videos:

Pakistan handmade Ruby type
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5S_qmBL_KM

Chinese handmade Browning type
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtFPgu82f1c

There are many more. It's interesting to notice all handmade were blowback type. I believe that's still the situation today. From news, police captured handmade pistols here and there, destroyed one in-home gun making facility after another. On display, all were blowback. No complex ones.

spacecoast · 06-25-2015, 10:42 PM

Another phone call yesterday. Maybe they're desperate. Pickings seem pretty slim in this one to me.

sheepherder · 06-25-2015, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacecoast

Another phone call yesterday. Maybe they're desperate. Pickings seem pretty slim in this one to me.

Oh? Eugene didn't consign any Luger carbines??

alvin · 06-26-2015, 07:37 AM

Quite a few pistols are attractive in this RIAC session. I like these. Chairman Mao's first wife was killed by nationalist militia using one of these type in 1930. Was it this particular one? God knows. Chance is very very slim, but exists

Of course, guns relatively common without provenance record in this shape must be cheap to be attractive.

Mac Cat · 06-26-2015, 09:14 AM

Not too many Lugers this time, but a number of the lots included two or more guns and they appear to be priced lower than the last auction.

sheepherder · 06-26-2015, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac Cat

Not too many Lugers this time, but a number of the lots included two or more guns and they appear to be priced lower than the last auction.

"Teasers"...The suggested prices bear no relation to reality...

alvin · 06-27-2015, 02:58 AM

Won nothing yesterday. Current collecting method is like performing a guerrilla warfare: hit and run. But... most time, only run around, could not hit anything... anyway, keep me busy.

ithacaartist · 06-29-2015, 07:00 PM

I got an email from RIAC Sunday night saying I had won on day 3. I bid through their site, not Proxibid. I was unable to pull up anything on my account there about it. Then I got another email saying there had been a mix-up with mailing lists. I asked what was up, they responded that I had won nothing. Dingwads.

Edward Tinker · 06-30-2015, 12:15 AM

same with me - some kind of screw up

all to the best, I spent my play money

hayhugh · 06-30-2015, 07:39 AM

http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie.../1025/lid/2601

Lot #: 2601

Estimated Price: $950 - $1,500

Unique Non Firing DWM Double Barrel Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol From the Ralph Shattuck Collection

Sold for: $4312.50 - includes BP

alvin · 09-12-2015, 09:09 PM

RIAC is well known, they have so many bidders nowadays. While watching real-time video today, I heard winning bidder number above 2000 !! That does not count those bidders on internet (for example, all bidders from proxibid.com shares a single bidder number: 99. Probably actual number of active internet bidders are a few hundred). It's very hard to "steal" anything from them these days. At least, not for short-term playing. All won items must be long term.

05-08-2015, 12:18 PM	#1
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,342 Thanks: 7,264 Thanked 2,569 Times in 1,363 Posts	RIA Regional Auction Catalog is up... It has this lot http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie.../1025/lid/2601 A new one on me, but I was born yesterday. Anyone know anything about this contraption? I wish they had more pics. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

06-13-2015, 01:28 PM	#3
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	Dave didn't put a date in his thread title [ ] so I don't know if this is the same auction, but I got the June 26/27/28 2015 Regional Auction catalog about a week ago...340 pages...B&W... Nothing I can't live without in this auction... But what is odd is that I got an email from a RIAC 'Customer Service Representative' on the 11th 'reminding me' about the auction and that they sent me a catalog... The really odd part is the "CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE" at the end of the email...Saying that everything contained within was "protected by and subject to the attorney-client privilege or be privileged work product or proprietary information." Uh, I didn't appoint RIAC as my representative or agree to any secrecy clause...And there's nothing in the email that isn't on the RIAC site... Anybody else get this BS email??? Seems counter productive...Telling prospective bidders to NOT tell anyone else about the RIAC auction... And that's all it is...Just a reminder about the auction... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

06-15-2015, 12:26 PM	#8
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,342 Thanks: 7,264 Thanked 2,569 Times in 1,363 Posts	2 phone calls and a B & W catalog. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

06-15-2015, 03:01 PM	#9
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	I went directly to the RIAC main site, signed in, and left a msg on the "instant chat" section...Asking if the email from the Customer Service Rep was phishing or actual...And about the "Confidentiality Notice"...I got this response [in part] - Mr. [sheepherder], Thank you for your email. RIAC Customer Service Representative [omitted] does work with Rock Island Auction Company. The confidentiality notice is present as this email was sent as a personal transmission to you directly. It was not sent as a mass email reminder of the upcoming auction, but a personal email to remind you about the upcoming sale. As you are the intended recipient feel free to pass along the information of our upcoming sale to any friends, relatives, or neighbors you think may be interested. If I can further address your concerns or be of any additional assistance please do not hesitate to let me know. Sincerely, [ommitted] Customer Service Team Lead \| Rock Island Auction Company The email from the "Team Lead" also contains the "Confidentiality Notice"... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

06-26-2015, 07:37 AM	#13
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Quite a few pistols are attractive in this RIAC session. I like these. Chairman Mao's first wife was killed by nationalist militia using one of these type in 1930. Was it this particular one? God knows. Chance is very very slim, but exists Of course, guns relatively common without provenance record in this shape must be cheap to be attractive. Attached Thumbnails

05-18-2015, 11:37 AM	#2
spacecoast User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL and PA Posts: 332 Thanks: 276 Thanked 243 Times in 109 Posts	Discussed here http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...ation-at-R-I-A

06-13-2015, 04:28 PM	#4
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 725 Thanks: 2,089 Thanked 606 Times in 327 Posts	They started calling me and leaving voice mail, which I didn't exactly request. I did sign-up and placed a few bids on their last auction, but I hated their whole auction process and I wasn't going to pay for a proxy. Won't bother again and the mark-up's were horrible. I've only had two email reminders, but they were both very generic.

06-13-2015, 09:48 PM	#6
Diver6106 User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Mt. Vernon VA Posts: 244 Thanks: 1,424 Thanked 117 Times in 75 Posts	http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=34420 I get the catalog for free and they usually make a call to follow up and remind me. They have my email, but seem to like the personal touch for my follow ups. I don't mind and like the free catalog for review.

06-15-2015, 11:59 AM	#7
spacecoast User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL and PA Posts: 332 Thanks: 276 Thanked 243 Times in 109 Posts	I got a phone call as well.

06-21-2015, 01:59 PM	#10
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Ian has some special interest on some special items, and posted excellent reviews on youtube.com. If interested, here are a few videos: Pakistan handmade Ruby type https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5S_qmBL_KM Chinese handmade Browning type https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtFPgu82f1c There are many more. It's interesting to notice all handmade were blowback type. I believe that's still the situation today. From news, police captured handmade pistols here and there, destroyed one in-home gun making facility after another. On display, all were blowback. No complex ones.

06-25-2015, 10:42 PM	#11
spacecoast User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL and PA Posts: 332 Thanks: 276 Thanked 243 Times in 109 Posts	Another phone call yesterday. Maybe they're desperate. Pickings seem pretty slim in this one to me.

06-26-2015, 09:14 AM	#14
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 725 Thanks: 2,089 Thanked 606 Times in 327 Posts	Not too many Lugers this time, but a number of the lots included two or more guns and they appear to be priced lower than the last auction.

06-27-2015, 02:58 AM	#16
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Won nothing yesterday. Current collecting method is like performing a guerrilla warfare: hit and run. But... most time, only run around, could not hit anything... anyway, keep me busy.

06-29-2015, 07:00 PM	#17
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,342 Thanks: 7,264 Thanked 2,569 Times in 1,363 Posts	I got an email from RIAC Sunday night saying I had won on day 3. I bid through their site, not Proxibid. I was unable to pull up anything on my account there about it. Then I got another email saying there had been a mix-up with mailing lists. I asked what was up, they responded that I had won nothing. Dingwads. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

06-30-2015, 12:15 AM	#18
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	same with me - some kind of screw up all to the best, I spent my play money

06-30-2015, 07:39 AM	#19
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 896 Thanks: 856 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie.../1025/lid/2601 Lot #: 2601 Estimated Price: $950 - $1,500 Unique Non Firing DWM Double Barrel Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol From the Ralph Shattuck Collection Sold for: $4312.50 - includes BP Attached Thumbnails Last edited by hayhugh; 06-30-2015 at 07:56 AM. Reason: More info.

09-12-2015, 09:09 PM	#20
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	RIAC is well known, they have so many bidders nowadays. While watching real-time video today, I heard winning bidder number above 2000 !! That does not count those bidders on internet (for example, all bidders from proxibid.com shares a single bidder number: 99. Probably actual number of active internet bidders are a few hundred). It's very hard to "steal" anything from them these days. At least, not for short-term playing. All won items must be long term.