Mauser Vernier

wlyon · 04-18-2011, 06:28 PM

Just picked up a nice old Mauser vernier in original box. The box is very old and pretty crumbly. On the depth gauge is a 41 stamp. Year? I realize some of these were made post-war for sale in the U.S. From what I find these were marked "stainless" in English and a name for a N.Y. dealer. This has no "made in Germany" or "Germany" stamp. All writing is in German. Appreciate any comments.

sheepherder · 04-18-2011, 06:38 PM

That is way cool, dude!!!

I have a German tool made of stainless...It is marked 'Rostfrei'...Which I suppose means 'rustfree'...

pitsword · 04-18-2011, 09:40 PM

Very nice. Ahh, the zenith of machine work, done by hand and brain. Beautiful.

Hugo Borchardt · 04-18-2011, 09:42 PM

Bill:

Very interesting!!! Thanks for sharing!

Clark

tomaustin · 04-18-2011, 10:55 PM

i would not even know where to look..............nice find...tom

Vlim · 04-19-2011, 04:53 AM

Mauser has made measuring equipment for many years, and part of the Measuring Equipment department of Mauser is still in business.

In fact, it is still located in the original Mauser buildings in Oberndorf am Neckar. They did merge with another measuring tool business, but the Mauser logo is still being used.

In the 1970s Mauser Messwerkzeug GmbH also did the special finishes on the Mauser Parabellum (and probably also the HSc) pistols: Matte hardchroming was done there.

The production of small measuring devices was transferred to a company called TESA. The current Mauser company specializes in large production equipment.

wlyon · 04-19-2011, 11:01 AM

Vlim
Any idea on the age of this vernier? Is the 41 on the depth gauge a year? The box is definately old. The whole thing has been around for some time. Do the later ones have some identifying mark ? This one has nothing except Mauser. Thanks Bill

Ice · 04-19-2011, 03:28 PM

I know nothing of the vernier except that is a beautifully made instrument complete with box. The Mauser name makes it extra special. I'm glad for your good fortune.

Charlie

Edward Tinker · 04-19-2011, 03:51 PM

very cool

Vlim · 04-20-2011, 08:16 AM

I think that the 41 is a sort of inventory number. The box style is old and could even be pre-war.

Patronen · 04-28-2011, 10:49 AM

While researching an unrelated topic in my books I came across an article about collecting mauser non-gun collectables. It shows the Vernier caliper along with micrometers and other things. The article dates the micrometer to the 1920's. The Vernier caliper shown is said to be in both inches and milimeters with the Mauser Banner and says Made in Germany for George Scherr Co. New York. The article makes reference to a book by Wolfgang Steel called Mauser From Gunsmith to World Enterprise, maybe that book will give more details about the Vernier.- Dave

mauro · 04-28-2011, 03:13 PM

Bill,
I have here at home quite a number of non-gun collectable Mauser items.
I am sure you appreciate the photos of this pre-WWII Mauser booklet describing the precision tools produced in Oberndorf.
I have only taken a few pics of some Verniers, if you want more just contact me.

Cheers,
Mauro

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wlyon · 04-28-2011, 03:46 PM

Mauro
Nice book! Thank you for the pictures. Do they show any of the boxes they came in ? Bill

mauro · 04-28-2011, 04:04 PM

I will check...

Steinar · 04-29-2011, 09:28 AM

I had one that was in a leather holster. But I lost it somehow.. Think perhaps Gerben have the brochure that came with it

Last month I was lucky enough to find one just like it for just 45NOK ($9)

http://www.qxl.no/pris/samleobjekter...v/an637683942/
There are probably many of these laying around in workshops, will last for centurys.

mauro · 04-29-2011, 11:26 AM

Steinar It's enought asking... we are serious Mauser collectors

Bill, you can see the pictures with the boxes available when the booklet was printed out.

Additionally, the caliper on the top has the name of the worker engraved...

Cheers,

Mauro

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Vlim · 04-29-2011, 03:54 PM

Quote:

I had one that was in a leather holster. But I lost it somehow.. Think perhaps Gerben have the brochure that came with it

I do

Vlim · 04-29-2011, 04:16 PM

I already looked at the 1960 dated Mauser brochure, they are very similar to Wylon's, but the 1960 ones all have the 'INOX' text under the Mauser logo. That lead me to believe that Wylon's version is older.

Steinar was kind enough to send me that brochure a couple of years ago

Steinar · 04-29-2011, 04:30 PM

I feel an inner urge to buy this one http://www.finn.no/finn/torget/tilsa...nkode=27136026
Problem is.. I have abselutely no need for it

..looks like it has lots of wheels and handles to play with.
Nah, I need to stop searching for "mauser".

Vlim · 04-29-2011, 04:38 PM

Steinar, did I mention that Mauser also made cars?

04-18-2011, 06:28 PM	#1
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,619 Thanks: 3,144 Thanked 2,531 Times in 943 Posts	Mauser Vernier Just picked up a nice old Mauser vernier in original box. The box is very old and pretty crumbly. On the depth gauge is a 41 stamp. Year? I realize some of these were made post-war for sale in the U.S. From what I find these were marked "stainless" in English and a name for a N.Y. dealer. This has no "made in Germany" or "Germany" stamp. All writing is in German. Appreciate any comments. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Bill Lyon

04-18-2011, 06:38 PM	#2
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,440 Times in 2,328 Posts	That is way cool, dude!!! I have a German tool made of stainless...It is marked 'Rostfrei'...Which I suppose means 'rustfree'... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

04-18-2011, 09:42 PM	#4
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 370 Thanks: 338 Thanked 131 Times in 47 Posts	Bill: Very interesting!!! Thanks for sharing! Clark __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm

04-18-2011, 10:55 PM	#5
tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	how the hell did you "just picked this up"..... i would not even know where to look..............nice find...tom

04-19-2011, 04:53 AM	#6
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,045 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,943 Times in 1,196 Posts	Mauser has made measuring equipment for many years, and part of the Measuring Equipment department of Mauser is still in business. In fact, it is still located in the original Mauser buildings in Oberndorf am Neckar. They did merge with another measuring tool business, but the Mauser logo is still being used. In the 1970s Mauser Messwerkzeug GmbH also did the special finishes on the Mauser Parabellum (and probably also the HSc) pistols: Matte hardchroming was done there. The production of small measuring devices was transferred to a company called TESA. The current Mauser company specializes in large production equipment. Attached Thumbnails

04-18-2011, 09:40 PM	#3
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 456 Thanks: 3,914 Thanked 101 Times in 81 Posts	Very nice. Ahh, the zenith of machine work, done by hand and brain. Beautiful.

04-19-2011, 11:01 AM	#7
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,619 Thanks: 3,144 Thanked 2,531 Times in 943 Posts	Vlim Any idea on the age of this vernier? Is the 41 on the depth gauge a year? The box is definately old. The whole thing has been around for some time. Do the later ones have some identifying mark ? This one has nothing except Mauser. Thanks Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

04-19-2011, 03:28 PM	#8
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	I know nothing of the vernier except that is a beautifully made instrument complete with box. The Mauser name makes it extra special. I'm glad for your good fortune. Charlie

04-19-2011, 03:51 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	very cool __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-20-2011, 08:16 AM	#10
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,045 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,943 Times in 1,196 Posts	I think that the 41 is a sort of inventory number. The box style is old and could even be pre-war.

04-28-2011, 10:49 AM	#11
Patronen User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 312 Thanks: 335 Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts	While researching an unrelated topic in my books I came across an article about collecting mauser non-gun collectables. It shows the Vernier caliper along with micrometers and other things. The article dates the micrometer to the 1920's. The Vernier caliper shown is said to be in both inches and milimeters with the Mauser Banner and says Made in Germany for George Scherr Co. New York. The article makes reference to a book by Wolfgang Steel called Mauser From Gunsmith to World Enterprise, maybe that book will give more details about the Vernier.- Dave

04-28-2011, 03:13 PM	#12
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Bill, I have here at home quite a number of non-gun collectable Mauser items. I am sure you appreciate the photos of this pre-WWII Mauser booklet describing the precision tools produced in Oberndorf. I have only taken a few pics of some Verniers, if you want more just contact me. Cheers, Mauro __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

04-28-2011, 03:46 PM	#13
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,619 Thanks: 3,144 Thanked 2,531 Times in 943 Posts	Mauro Nice book! Thank you for the pictures. Do they show any of the boxes they came in ? Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

04-28-2011, 04:04 PM	#14
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	I will check... __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

04-29-2011, 09:28 AM	#15
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	I had one that was in a leather holster. But I lost it somehow.. Think perhaps Gerben have the brochure that came with it Last month I was lucky enough to find one just like it for just 45NOK ($9) http://www.qxl.no/pris/samleobjekter...v/an637683942/ There are probably many of these laying around in workshops, will last for centurys. __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

04-29-2011, 11:26 AM	#16
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Steinar It's enought asking... we are serious Mauser collectors Bill, you can see the pictures with the boxes available when the booklet was printed out. Additionally, the caliper on the top has the name of the worker engraved... Cheers, Mauro __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

04-29-2011, 04:16 PM	#18
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,045 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,943 Times in 1,196 Posts	I already looked at the 1960 dated Mauser brochure, they are very similar to Wylon's, but the 1960 ones all have the 'INOX' text under the Mauser logo. That lead me to believe that Wylon's version is older. Steinar was kind enough to send me that brochure a couple of years ago

04-29-2011, 04:30 PM	#19
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	I feel an inner urge to buy this one http://www.finn.no/finn/torget/tilsa...nkode=27136026 Problem is.. I have abselutely no need for it ..looks like it has lots of wheels and handles to play with. Nah, I need to stop searching for "mauser". __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

04-29-2011, 04:38 PM	#20
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,045 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,943 Times in 1,196 Posts	Steinar, did I mention that Mauser also made cars? Attached Thumbnails Attached Images