French LP arti with star

LU1900 · 07-22-2006, 12:01 PM

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LU1900 · 07-22-2006, 12:13 PM

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LU1900 · 07-22-2006, 12:17 PM

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mauro · 07-22-2006, 01:58 PM

Absolutely nice item.
A rare LP08 made by Mauser under French control (45-47).
I like this gun. Really nice condition. So far I have met three LP08 made under french control. One with the "star" serial number and the other one with the only digits serial number.
Congratulation.
Cheers,
Mauro

P.S. On my web site you can find some more pictures of the P08 and LP08 made under French control.

Ron Smith · 07-22-2006, 02:57 PM

Patrice,

That is a beautiful Artillery! I wasn't aware that the French produced them. Congratulations!!

Ron

Pete Ebbink · 07-22-2006, 03:09 PM

Patrice,

Very nice looking Arty and I like that holster as well.

Forgive my ignorance :

1. Could you provide more history behind the French making such lugers ?

2. The Mauser Banner looks like the larger sized Banner. Wasn't this discontinued in the mid 1930's for the small Banner in the later Mauser lugers ? If yes, this would indicate left-over parts from the early 1930's used in this French production ???

Please make me smarter...

Vlim · 07-22-2006, 03:32 PM

Hi,

Well, the French didn't, actually. Mauser did, under French control. In Oberndorf am N.

When the French left, they nicked the inventory and blew the place up. That was in 1953. Not that it mattered much. Mauser was up and running a few years later, most buildings were rebuilt in the early 1960s.

The destruction was documented, examples can be seen here:
http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...threadid=14294

LU1900 · 07-22-2006, 03:47 PM

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Ron Wood · 07-22-2006, 04:28 PM

Pat,
That is a wonderful find. Congratulations. It is a very rare piece and in beautiful condition.
Ron

mauro · 07-22-2006, 04:48 PM

Hello again,
I have published a few months ago an article in an Italian magazine about the Mauser P08/LP08 made inder French control (45-47). Up to now 5 variations have been analysed. A description of these models it is also available on my book at page 91. Unfortunatly in my book are not present pictures.
I suggest to have a look at my web site to see some more photos about these pistols - click on "LP08 made under French control".
In the next days I will provide an English translation of the description of the five variations.
Cheers,
Mauro

drbuster · 07-23-2006, 09:20 PM

I am assuming that "made under French control" meant that these artillery lugers were assembled from already existing (left over) parts and not newly manufactured. Was the star prefix ever used for any other guns? Would that star signify "French" soulement?

Vlim · 07-24-2006, 07:13 AM

Yes, it's most likely that it was merely an assembly job. Mauser had been working mostly on P38's from 1942 onwards, most production equipment would have been set up for these, rather than the P08.

the gunman · 07-24-2006, 09:06 AM

"Very Very nice find"

07-22-2006, 12:01 PM	#1
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07-22-2006, 01:58 PM	#4
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Absolutely nice item. A rare LP08 made by Mauser under French control (45-47). I like this gun. Really nice condition. So far I have met three LP08 made under french control. One with the "star" serial number and the other one with the only digits serial number. Congratulation. Cheers, Mauro P.S. On my web site you can find some more pictures of the P08 and LP08 made under French control. __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

07-22-2006, 02:57 PM	#5
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Patrice, That is a beautiful Artillery! I wasn't aware that the French produced them. Congratulations!! Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

07-22-2006, 03:09 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Patrice, Very nice looking Arty and I like that holster as well. Forgive my ignorance : 1. Could you provide more history behind the French making such lugers ? 2. The Mauser Banner looks like the larger sized Banner. Wasn't this discontinued in the mid 1930's for the small Banner in the later Mauser lugers ? If yes, this would indicate left-over parts from the early 1930's used in this French production ??? Please make me smarter...

07-22-2006, 03:32 PM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,048 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,951 Times in 1,199 Posts	Hi, Well, the French didn't, actually. Mauser did, under French control. In Oberndorf am N. When the French left, they nicked the inventory and blew the place up. That was in 1953. Not that it mattered much. Mauser was up and running a few years later, most buildings were rebuilt in the early 1960s. The destruction was documented, examples can be seen here: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...threadid=14294

07-22-2006, 03:47 PM	#8
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 905 Thanks: 37 Thanked 466 Times in 195 Posts	............ __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

07-22-2006, 04:28 PM	#9
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Pat, That is a wonderful find. Congratulations. It is a very rare piece and in beautiful condition. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-22-2006, 04:48 PM	#10
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Hello again, I have published a few months ago an article in an Italian magazine about the Mauser P08/LP08 made inder French control (45-47). Up to now 5 variations have been analysed. A description of these models it is also available on my book at page 91. Unfortunatly in my book are not present pictures. I suggest to have a look at my web site to see some more photos about these pistols - click on "LP08 made under French control". In the next days I will provide an English translation of the description of the five variations. Cheers, Mauro __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

07-23-2006, 09:20 PM	#11
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	I am assuming that "made under French control" meant that these artillery lugers were assembled from already existing (left over) parts and not newly manufactured. Was the star prefix ever used for any other guns? Would that star signify "French" soulement?

07-24-2006, 07:13 AM	#12
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,048 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,951 Times in 1,199 Posts	Yes, it's most likely that it was merely an assembly job. Mauser had been working mostly on P38's from 1942 onwards, most production equipment would have been set up for these, rather than the P08.

07-24-2006, 09:06 AM	#13
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	"Very Very nice find"