C96 Mauser info question

Patrick Sweeney · 05-18-2020, 02:23 PM

Where might I go to find out some info on a C96 the likes of which I've never seen before.

It appears to be a plain C96, except for the removable magazine, and no, it isn't a Schnellfuer.

Vlim · 05-18-2020, 03:20 PM

Most likely Chinese. Made from leftover Mauser bits and newly made Chinese frames.

Doubs · 05-18-2020, 04:33 PM

Vlim is almost certainly correct. I recall Broomhandle Mausers being offered with detachable mags back in the 1990's as large numbers of C-96 pistols were imported from China.

George Anderson · 05-18-2020, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Doubs

Vlim is almost certainly correct. I recall Broomhandle Mausers being offered with detachable mags back in the 1990's as large numbers of C-96 pistols were imported from China.

And now we're importing their dungarees, garden tools and disease.

Vlim · 05-18-2020, 06:14 PM

Here's one we sliced earlier

Note the stepped M1930 barrel, the large ring hammer and the roughly shaped trigger. The original 7,63 barrel was rebored to 9mm.

I understand the timing was off on many of these so slicing it in half was probably the most humane option.

Patrick Sweeney · 05-19-2020, 01:09 PM

Interesting. If chinese made, this one was made by a much better shop.

hayhugh · 05-19-2020, 01:12 PM

More photos???

Vlim · 05-19-2020, 01:15 PM

Looks like a converted 712 to me. More photos from the inside should help.

Patrick Sweeney · 05-27-2020, 12:05 PM

I'll dive into the archives and see what I have.

Anything in particular to look for, inside, that gives a clue?

Doubs · 05-27-2020, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sweeney

I'll dive into the archives and see what I have.

Anything in particular to look for, inside, that gives a clue?

On the left side of the frame behind the mag well there should be evidence that the selector hole was welded up.

Sergio Natali · 05-29-2020, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick Sweeney

Where might I go to find out some info on a C96 the likes of which I've never seen before.

It appears to be a plain C96, except for the removable magazine, and no, it isn't a Schnellfuer.

Just to get a smattering of information I would advise you to check this interesting site:

http://askmisterscience.com/1896mauserbackup/

pitsword · 05-31-2020, 09:46 PM

Patrick iz dat be you, my Favorite G&A writer?

Patrick Sweeney · 06-02-2020, 01:31 PM

Yes, I am he.

And if the selector hole was welded up, then it isn't a pistol, but a welded select-fire, and thus not kosher? I'll look.

eagle7373 · 06-03-2020, 02:28 PM

Patrick,

To directly answer your question about where to find out more info about Mauser C96s I have found the book System Mauser by John Breathed and Joe Schroeder to be an excellent summary of this pistol. I'm pretty certain it is still in print, and well worth the money for anyone who wants to collect broom handles. (I have six). Maybe you already know about this book, but just wanted to let you know. I know the pistol you have is Chinese. Just to be clear, the book only touches on Chinese pistols. Not much detail.

schutzen-jager · 08-12-2020, 04:59 PM

federal ordnance in CA. produced a lot of them back about 20 + years ago from surplus parts kits -

MikeP · 08-12-2020, 05:18 PM

Yep on FEDORD. They did a lot of creative stuff with the loads of Brooms they imported.
Probably where your pistol came from.
I had a couple converted 9mms that worked most of the time.

schutzen-jager · 08-13-2020, 11:44 AM

from old Federal Ordnance catalog dated 1988 -

05-18-2020, 02:23 PM	#1
Patrick Sweeney User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 63 Thanks: 0 Thanked 48 Times in 23 Posts	C96 Mauser info question Where might I go to find out some info on a C96 the likes of which I've never seen before. It appears to be a plain C96, except for the removable magazine, and no, it isn't a Schnellfuer.

05-18-2020, 06:14 PM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,041 Thanks: 1,021 Thanked 3,902 Times in 1,190 Posts	Here's one we sliced earlier Note the stepped M1930 barrel, the large ring hammer and the roughly shaped trigger. The original 7,63 barrel was rebored to 9mm. I understand the timing was off on many of these so slicing it in half was probably the most humane option. Attached Thumbnails

05-19-2020, 01:09 PM	#6
Patrick Sweeney User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 63 Thanks: 0 Thanked 48 Times in 23 Posts	Interesting. If chinese made, this one was made by a much better shop. Attached Thumbnails

06-03-2020, 02:28 PM	#14
eagle7373 User Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Bellevue, Nebraska Posts: 36 Thanks: 57 Thanked 31 Times in 11 Posts	Patrick, To directly answer your question about where to find out more info about Mauser C96s I have found the book System Mauser by John Breathed and Joe Schroeder to be an excellent summary of this pistol. I'm pretty certain it is still in print, and well worth the money for anyone who wants to collect broom handles. (I have six). Maybe you already know about this book, but just wanted to let you know. I know the pistol you have is Chinese. Just to be clear, the book only touches on Chinese pistols. Not much detail. __________________ - Glenn Last edited by eagle7373; 06-03-2020 at 02:43 PM. Reason: correction

08-13-2020, 11:44 AM	#17
schutzen-jager User Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: peoples republic of New Jersey Posts: 187 Thanks: 208 Thanked 187 Times in 86 Posts	from old Federal Ordnance catalog dated 1988 - Attached Thumbnails

05-18-2020, 03:20 PM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,041 Thanks: 1,021 Thanked 3,902 Times in 1,190 Posts	Most likely Chinese. Made from leftover Mauser bits and newly made Chinese frames.

05-18-2020, 04:33 PM	#3
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,670 Thanks: 770 Thanked 1,614 Times in 525 Posts	Vlim is almost certainly correct. I recall Broomhandle Mausers being offered with detachable mags back in the 1990's as large numbers of C-96 pistols were imported from China.

05-19-2020, 01:12 PM	#7
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 884 Thanks: 851 Thanked 507 Times in 270 Posts	More photos???

05-19-2020, 01:15 PM	#8
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,041 Thanks: 1,021 Thanked 3,902 Times in 1,190 Posts	Looks like a converted 712 to me. More photos from the inside should help.

05-27-2020, 12:05 PM	#9
Patrick Sweeney User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 63 Thanks: 0 Thanked 48 Times in 23 Posts	I'll dive into the archives and see what I have. Anything in particular to look for, inside, that gives a clue?

05-31-2020, 09:46 PM	#12
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 455 Thanks: 3,898 Thanked 101 Times in 81 Posts	Patrick iz dat be you, my Favorite G&A writer?

06-02-2020, 01:31 PM	#13
Patrick Sweeney User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 63 Thanks: 0 Thanked 48 Times in 23 Posts	Yes, I am he. And if the selector hole was welded up, then it isn't a pistol, but a welded select-fire, and thus not kosher? I'll look.

08-12-2020, 04:59 PM	#15
schutzen-jager User Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: peoples republic of New Jersey Posts: 187 Thanks: 208 Thanked 187 Times in 86 Posts	federal ordnance in CA. produced a lot of them back about 20 + years ago from surplus parts kits -

08-12-2020, 05:18 PM	#16
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	Yep on FEDORD. They did a lot of creative stuff with the loads of Brooms they imported. Probably where your pistol came from. I had a couple converted 9mms that worked most of the time.