long/short

Rick W. · 05-19-2001, 06:04 PM

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SteveM · 05-19-2001, 06:35 PM

It you look at the frame in front of the locking bolt/td lever, the frame of the old model will have a more sloping

curve vs. a sharp curve on the new model frame.

SteveM

05-20-2001, 08:55 AM

Steve, About the only long frame lugers made were the M1900, early 7.65 M1906s, all Swiss, and all postWW2 (1970s) Mauser Parabellums since they were made on the M29 Swiss machinery. These will have a receiver and barrel (threaded area) about 1/8" longer than a standard PO8, so none of the commonly available new barrels will be long enough. I do have a few original 7.65x100 or 120mm barrels for these. Surprisingly, the ones with the new extractor cut are harder to find than the old style M1900.

Big Norm · 05-23-2001, 02:35 AM

short frames are pre-1908. Commercial 1908 navies (6 inch barrel and adjustible rear toggle sight) may be short or long frame. DWM used up factory inventory of old long frames on the commercial navy lugers. The German navy specified short frames in their military contracts. Commercial sellers did not have a choice. The navy had priority. I think that there may be a difference in the breech block too, but do not quote me on that.

larry · 05-24-2001, 09:38 PM

Nope, have both and both will interchange perfectly in the other Luger. One was a long frame 1908 Navy and the other was a 1942. I could not believe the perfect fit, but it was.

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SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Re: long/short It you look at the frame in front of the locking bolt/td lever, the frame of the old model will have a more sloping curve vs. a sharp curve on the new model frame. SteveM

05-20-2001, 08:55 AM	#3
tom h Guest Posts: n/a	Re: long/short Steve, About the only long frame lugers made were the M1900, early 7.65 M1906s, all Swiss, and all postWW2 (1970s) Mauser Parabellums since they were made on the M29 Swiss machinery. These will have a receiver and barrel (threaded area) about 1/8" longer than a standard PO8, so none of the commonly available new barrels will be long enough. I do have a few original 7.65x100 or 120mm barrels for these. Surprisingly, the ones with the new extractor cut are harder to find than the old style M1900.

05-23-2001, 02:35 AM	#4
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: long/short short frames are pre-1908. Commercial 1908 navies (6 inch barrel and adjustible rear toggle sight) may be short or long frame. DWM used up factory inventory of old long frames on the commercial navy lugers. The German navy specified short frames in their military contracts. Commercial sellers did not have a choice. The navy had priority. I think that there may be a difference in the breech block too, but do not quote me on that.

05-24-2001, 09:38 PM	#5
larry User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 106 Thanks: 26 Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts	Re: long/short-no difference Nope, have both and both will interchange perfectly in the other Luger. One was a long frame 1908 Navy and the other was a 1942. I could not believe the perfect fit, but it was.