New Guy thinking about buying a Luger

realrider88 · 04-10-2013, 09:13 PM

Hello,

Are there people on this site that can assist me in appraising and determing real vs fake lugers?

I can take some pictures if there are

gmlehmann · 04-10-2013, 10:11 PM

Welcome Mike,

I am very new here as well (about 10 days) and have found the people here to be very helpful and informative; I’m certain you would find the info your looking for.

Pictures are very important in order to make proper evaluations, just make sure to take pictures from various angles, such as sides, top, etc. and include any dates and insignias; the clearer the pictures the better.

Glenn

Nomadr · 04-10-2013, 10:14 PM

Welcome to the forum.

Post good photos and you'll get all the info you need.

Bob

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realrider88 · 04-10-2013, 10:37 PM

Luger 42BYF P.08 9mm

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realrider88 · 04-10-2013, 10:56 PM

Luger 1939 S/42 9mm

Nomadr · 04-10-2013, 11:32 PM

Would prefer better close ups. But from what I see they look original. You will get different opinions, but I would prefer the byf42. Would also need to know if the magazines are matching? Or at least correct for the byf42? Full serial number with suffix on the front of frame

What are the asking prices?

Bob

Edward Tinker · 04-10-2013, 11:37 PM

original vs restored

. From the small photos its kind of hard to tell.

What are you looking for in a Luger?

realrider88 · 04-10-2013, 11:47 PM

Those are two different guns, I am looking to find out what each of them is worth.

DavidJayUden · 04-10-2013, 11:54 PM

Do all the numbers on each gun match? Do the magazine numbers match the gun? Assuming that the finish is original and there are no big goobers I'm not seeing, maybe a ball park figure of $1500 to $2000 range for either. The BYF is probably a bit more valuable than the S/42.
But there are a lot of variables in play here.
Hope this helps.
dju

Edward Tinker · 04-11-2013, 12:00 AM

Too broad based, you are showing us a few pictures and that's it... To get info, you have to give more.

Check out the various retail places to get values and compare values.

realrider88 · 04-11-2013, 12:40 AM

What other pictures/Information do you guys need to make a reasonable estimate on value?

alanint · 04-11-2013, 04:57 AM

Welcome,

We need really good closeups of all markings on the guns, including all serials, acceptance stamps, etc. Also, have you disassembled to verify that all interior numbers match the balance of the pistol?
It would be good to use another type of photo software. Yours looks like some sort of thuimbnail/slide simulator that does not allow you to resize.

lugersrkewl · 04-11-2013, 09:35 AM

that s42 looks brand new

SteveM · 04-11-2013, 10:14 AM

If both of those you have pictured are original finish, if it were me, I would probably take the 1939 S/42. There are fewer of those around than the BYF 42. That is unless the BYF's 2 mags are matching. It all comes down to details, details,details...

padredan · 04-11-2013, 10:20 AM

roger that, both look nice in the pictures, it may just come down to price and which you prefer.

realrider88 · 04-11-2013, 10:55 AM

Okay well assuming that those are the best pictures i cant get, the numbers match, and the mags match. What would each be worth?

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realrider88 User Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	New Guy thinking about buying a Luger Hello, Are there people on this site that can assist me in appraising and determing real vs fake lugers? I can take some pictures if there are

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	original vs restored . From the small photos its kind of hard to tell. What are you looking for in a Luger? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

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padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	roger that, both look nice in the pictures, it may just come down to price and which you prefer. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

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gmlehmann User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 41 Thanks: 10 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts	Welcome Mike, I am very new here as well (about 10 days) and have found the people here to be very helpful and informative; I’m certain you would find the info your looking for. Pictures are very important in order to make proper evaluations, just make sure to take pictures from various angles, such as sides, top, etc. and include any dates and insignias; the clearer the pictures the better. Glenn

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Nomadr Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 276 Thanks: 16 Thanked 28 Times in 22 Posts	Welcome to the forum. Post good photos and you'll get all the info you need. Bob

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Nomadr Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 276 Thanks: 16 Thanked 28 Times in 22 Posts	Would prefer better close ups. But from what I see they look original. You will get different opinions, but I would prefer the byf42. Would also need to know if the magazines are matching? Or at least correct for the byf42? Full serial number with suffix on the front of frame What are the asking prices? Bob

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realrider88 User Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Those are two different guns, I am looking to find out what each of them is worth.

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DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Do all the numbers on each gun match? Do the magazine numbers match the gun? Assuming that the finish is original and there are no big goobers I'm not seeing, maybe a ball park figure of $1500 to $2000 range for either. The BYF is probably a bit more valuable than the S/42. But there are a lot of variables in play here. Hope this helps. dju

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Too broad based, you are showing us a few pictures and that's it... To get info, you have to give more. Check out the various retail places to get values and compare values.

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realrider88 User Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What other pictures/Information do you guys need to make a reasonable estimate on value?

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Welcome, We need really good closeups of all markings on the guns, including all serials, acceptance stamps, etc. Also, have you disassembled to verify that all interior numbers match the balance of the pistol? It would be good to use another type of photo software. Yours looks like some sort of thuimbnail/slide simulator that does not allow you to resize.

04-11-2013, 09:35 AM	#17
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	that s42 looks brand new

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SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	If both of those you have pictured are original finish, if it were me, I would probably take the 1939 S/42. There are fewer of those around than the BYF 42. That is unless the BYF's 2 mags are matching. It all comes down to details, details,details...

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realrider88 User Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Okay well assuming that those are the best pictures i cant get, the numbers match, and the mags match. What would each be worth?