25 Autos - Page 3

Patronen · 10-25-2012, 10:25 PM

Dan, I have field strip and detail strip instructions if you would like them.

padredan · 10-25-2012, 10:34 PM

great, would be very helpfull, thank you.

Patronen · 10-25-2012, 10:46 PM

I'll send them to your e-mail.

padredan · 10-25-2012, 11:11 PM

thanks dave, i got it apart, had to remoce the front sight, who would have thunk it/lol. this little popper is one well machined pistol, some one took alot of time to build these pistols. after forty years and i may try to figure out how it works and see if i can get it to shoot.

LWaali · 10-25-2012, 11:14 PM

learn something new everyday... the front sight, huh?

padredan · 10-25-2012, 11:19 PM

yes how about that http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/Bayard/bayard.html it is really well made

Patronen · 10-25-2012, 11:27 PM

When you get it to shoot, post a range report.

padredan · 10-25-2012, 11:33 PM

roger that, it seems when i pull the trigger it does not engage the hammer,hmmm. another project. thinking back i do not think it was even loaded when taken from the nva officer, i guess he was playing safe or he could not get it to work either.

Curly1 · 10-25-2012, 11:38 PM

That is a very interesting design, hopefully you can get it functional again.

Ice · 10-26-2012, 06:03 AM

Dan, your Bayard is visually similar to the old S&W mod 61 .22 cal pistol. Comments?

Charlie

padredan · 10-26-2012, 08:15 AM

yes visualy, but no where close after that.

padredan · 10-26-2012, 02:40 PM

After disasembling and inspectiing the pistol, it has a broken trigger spring, oh well, not like i was going to use it alot. after all i havn't tried to fire it in over forty years anyway. It is amazing the machining and fitting that went into making of these small pocket pistols. I guess that was common for these type weapons way before you had to have a permit to carry concealed, Another thing this gun ended up in asia in a tropical climate and it has very little rust or pitting/ i think i had stored it for a long time is a oil coated pouch, anyway i may find a trigger spring one day and actuly fire it. it does hold five rounds and is a .32 acp.

John Sabato · 10-26-2012, 04:15 PM

What a wonderful and educational thread on .25's Thanks to Bill for starting it, and all those who shared these great photos!

yuccales · 10-27-2012, 08:57 PM

Thanks for posting all the great pictures. I feel kinda left out, since I've only got a little Beretta Jetfire.

padredan · 10-28-2012, 07:52 AM

thanks bound to be some out there, i got to thinking on it, somewhere i have the capture papers on it. not sure it would matter but would add some providence to it.

Steve Lempitski · 11-14-2012, 06:43 PM

Didnt John Browning invent the .25 ACP because of 22 feeding problems?

mrerick · 11-14-2012, 09:08 PM

Wikipedia indicates that the .25acp is a Browning introduced pistol cartridge:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.25_ACP

padredan · 11-14-2012, 11:12 PM

have never heard that, hmmm interesting.

padredan · 11-14-2012, 11:17 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.25_ACP

Steve Lempitski · 11-15-2012, 09:58 AM

Browning knew his stuff - that the .22 posed so many feeding problems, it could not be reliably used in a semi-auto pistol. so he developed the .25 ACP to overcome the problem. Even with the .22 semi-autos of today, the problem still exists. For example a bud of mine absolutely cannot fire Remington goldens out of his Ruger Mk III - anything else cycles fine....

10-25-2012, 10:25 PM	#41
Patronen User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 312 Thanks: 335 Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts	Dan, I have field strip and detail strip instructions if you would like them. __________________ Dave

10-25-2012, 10:34 PM	#42
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	great, would be very helpfull, thank you. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

10-25-2012, 10:46 PM	#43
Patronen User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 312 Thanks: 335 Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts	I'll send them to your e-mail. __________________ Dave

10-25-2012, 11:11 PM	#44
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	thanks dave, i got it apart, had to remoce the front sight, who would have thunk it/lol. this little popper is one well machined pistol, some one took alot of time to build these pistols. after forty years and i may try to figure out how it works and see if i can get it to shoot. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

10-25-2012, 11:19 PM	#46
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	yes how about that http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/Bayard/bayard.html it is really well made __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

10-25-2012, 11:14 PM	#45
LWaali User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 99 Thanks: 67 Thanked 20 Times in 9 Posts	learn something new everyday... the front sight, huh?

10-25-2012, 11:27 PM	#47
Patronen User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 312 Thanks: 335 Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts	When you get it to shoot, post a range report. __________________ Dave

10-25-2012, 11:33 PM	#48
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	roger that, it seems when i pull the trigger it does not engage the hammer,hmmm. another project. thinking back i do not think it was even loaded when taken from the nva officer, i guess he was playing safe or he could not get it to work either. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

10-25-2012, 11:38 PM	#49
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,228 Thanks: 111 Thanked 702 Times in 364 Posts	That is a very interesting design, hopefully you can get it functional again. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

10-26-2012, 06:03 AM	#50
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	Dan, your Bayard is visually similar to the old S&W mod 61 .22 cal pistol. Comments? Charlie

10-26-2012, 08:15 AM	#51
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	yes visualy, but no where close after that. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

10-26-2012, 02:40 PM	#52
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	After disasembling and inspectiing the pistol, it has a broken trigger spring, oh well, not like i was going to use it alot. after all i havn't tried to fire it in over forty years anyway. It is amazing the machining and fitting that went into making of these small pocket pistols. I guess that was common for these type weapons way before you had to have a permit to carry concealed, Another thing this gun ended up in asia in a tropical climate and it has very little rust or pitting/ i think i had stored it for a long time is a oil coated pouch, anyway i may find a trigger spring one day and actuly fire it. it does hold five rounds and is a .32 acp. Attached Thumbnails __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

10-26-2012, 04:15 PM	#53
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	What a wonderful and educational thread on .25's Thanks to Bill for starting it, and all those who shared these great photos! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-27-2012, 08:57 PM	#54
yuccales User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 10 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for posting all the great pictures. I feel kinda left out, since I've only got a little Beretta Jetfire.

10-28-2012, 07:52 AM	#55
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	thanks bound to be some out there, i got to thinking on it, somewhere i have the capture papers on it. not sure it would matter but would add some providence to it. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

11-14-2012, 06:43 PM	#56
Steve Lempitski User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Old Cape Cod Posts: 238 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Didnt John Browning invent the .25 ACP because of 22 feeding problems? __________________ SJL

11-14-2012, 09:08 PM	#57
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Wikipedia indicates that the .25acp is a Browning introduced pistol cartridge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.25_ACP __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-14-2012, 11:12 PM	#58
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	have never heard that, hmmm interesting. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

11-14-2012, 11:17 PM	#59
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.25_ACP __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

11-15-2012, 09:58 AM	#60
Steve Lempitski User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Old Cape Cod Posts: 238 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Browning knew his stuff - that the .22 posed so many feeding problems, it could not be reliably used in a semi-auto pistol. so he developed the .25 ACP to overcome the problem. Even with the .22 semi-autos of today, the problem still exists. For example a bud of mine absolutely cannot fire Remington goldens out of his Ruger Mk III - anything else cycles fine.... __________________ SJL