25 Autos

wlyon · 10-16-2012, 04:52 PM

Besides lugers I have an interest in 25 cal automatics. Don't have much of a collection but here's what I have. (Besides, it's raining hard.) They are interesting and not too expensive. At least the ones I have bought. Essentially worthless except for display. Although I sometimes carry one when riding my motorcycle. Why, I don't know.

Top L-R
Walther #9, serial #571529
Bayard, serial #33218
Astra, serial #683446

Bottom row L-R
Colt, serial #145623
Deutsche Werke Ortgies, #182220
Mauser 1910/1912, #251095

spartacus38 · 10-16-2012, 05:10 PM

I also like the .25 autos.
My favorite are the 1910/1934 Mausers.
Bob

LWaali · 10-16-2012, 07:36 PM

Nice set Wylon! I know what you mean about liking something for no apparent reason. I love old Spanish handguns (Campo-Giro, Astra, Llama, Star etc) and mics. .32's. Keep us posted when you get new ones!

Linda

rolandtg · 10-16-2012, 09:24 PM

A fine collection!
I have a little FN 1905 vest pocket that was given to me. Unfortunately it has someones name electro-penciled on it but it's a fun little pistol to shoot. Very ambitious safety mechanisms for such a tiny gun.
I think the .25 cartridge is more effective than it's generally credited with being.

I too also am fond of the Spanish pistols. Maybe its because my Dad had Llama .32 that was one of the first guns I ever shot.

MikeP · 10-16-2012, 10:52 PM

I have several and like them for the hell of it.
Goy a bunch of old .32s as well.
I used an old air conditioner as a target yesterday for a 1910.
Got a reasonable group of dents in the side of it.

Big bang-little effect.

Curly1 · 10-17-2012, 12:51 AM

I have 2 wartime Duo's and a post war CZ model 1945, both neat lil guns.

alanint · 10-17-2012, 08:31 AM

The coolest .25 Calibre I ever saw was a fully functional, fully automatic miniature 1921 Thompson Submachinegun.

It was some years ago at the old "Great Western" gun show. I wonder where that gun is today.

Douglas Jr. · 10-17-2012, 10:25 AM

Will,

Nice collection, or, as you said, display.
I had never paid too much attention for vest pockets pistols until a collector that was leaving the hobby for good gave me a bunch of them for free.

I had bought some other (bigger) stuff from from him and he was somewhat anxious to get rid of them, so I got an "instantanious collection". I just need to pay for the necessary paperwork. A few were refinished, but as I had paid nothing, I was quite happy.

After that I started to pay more attention to these little guns, and learned to enjoy their creative mechanical features and designs. If you want, I can post some pictures, just don't want to hijack your topic, Bill...

Douglas

wlyon · 10-17-2012, 10:38 AM

Douglas
Post away. The more the better. Bill

Douglas Jr. · 10-17-2012, 11:34 AM

Bill,

Thanks!
Your wish is my command.

Here we go.

CLEMENT MODEL 1907
Obviously refinished, but I loved its unique design.
Very low serial number (# 810). I need to find the correct grips.
Rare Belgian gun, made for only a couple of years.

Douglas Jr. · 10-17-2012, 11:36 AM

COLT VEST POCKET 1908

Some slight pitting on the slide, but it doesn't bother me.
Serial #14903, second year of production (1909).

Douglas Jr. · 10-17-2012, 11:41 AM

SIMSON MODELL 1926

This is was also refinished. But what really caught my attention was the inscription on the slide:

"Fur Oberleutnant Vogel - vom den seine Truppe - 22 -X - 1938"
("To First Lieutnant Vogel - From Your Troops - October 22nd, 1938")

Probably an officer's back up gun that was brought back by a Brazilian soldier uring WWII. This is the highest serial number known (as far a I know) of this scarce pistol (#34645).

Douglas Jr. · 10-17-2012, 11:44 AM

STEYR MODEL 1909

Plain example, made in 1922, serial # 115948 A.

Douglas Jr. · 10-17-2012, 11:48 AM

THUNDER MODEL 1919

Impossible not have a pre-Civil War Spanish .25 ACP pistol, isn't it?

Here is a Thunder Model 1919 (made by a company named Martin A. Bascarán), with original finish. Interesting design, a kind of departure from the standard Browning copies we often seen. I still need to find its serial number location...

Douglas Jr. · 10-17-2012, 11:55 AM

WEBLEY & SCOTT MODEL 1912

What about an English vest pocket pistol, mates?
Webley & Scott Model 1912 (with what looks like original finish).
Serial #129426.

Douglas Jr. · 10-17-2012, 12:03 PM

VESTA POCKET MODEL 1912

Another Spanish pistol (made by Hijos D. Angel Echevarria), but somewhat different!

In my opinion this is not real gold, but the grips are real mother-of-pearl. I don't think the engraving is factory-made but well done for the average Eibar made gun. I enjoyed its fancy look. Very low serial number (#62).

That's it, I guess. Hope you enjoy my meager array of vest pocket pistols.

Douglas.

saab-bob · 10-17-2012, 12:29 PM

Douglas
Very nice!
Great collection,especially for the price!
Love the Webley & Scott pistol,never knew they made a pocket pistol.
Are all these guns chambered for the .25 ACP?
Thanks
bob

wlyon · 10-17-2012, 02:19 PM

Douglas
Very very nice!!! Thanks for sharing. Bill

Douglas Jr. · 10-17-2012, 02:29 PM

Bob,

Yes, they are all chambered for .25 ammo.
I almost posted a Smith & Wesson Safety Hammerless in mint condition but I remembered that this topic was about semiautomatic pistols...

Douglas

LWaali · 10-17-2012, 02:31 PM

Love that little Vesta! Thanks for the share!

10-17-2012, 11:34 AM	#10
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	Bill, Thanks! Your wish is my command. Here we go. CLEMENT MODEL 1907 Obviously refinished, but I loved its unique design. Very low serial number (# 810). I need to find the correct grips. Rare Belgian gun, made for only a couple of years. Attached Thumbnails

10-17-2012, 11:36 AM	#11
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	COLT VEST POCKET 1908 Some slight pitting on the slide, but it doesn't bother me. Serial #14903, second year of production (1909). Attached Thumbnails

10-17-2012, 11:44 AM	#13
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	STEYR MODEL 1909 Plain example, made in 1922, serial # 115948 A. Attached Thumbnails

10-17-2012, 11:55 AM	#15
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	WEBLEY & SCOTT MODEL 1912 What about an English vest pocket pistol, mates? Webley & Scott Model 1912 (with what looks like original finish). Serial #129426. Attached Thumbnails

10-17-2012, 12:03 PM	#16
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	VESTA POCKET MODEL 1912 Another Spanish pistol (made by Hijos D. Angel Echevarria), but somewhat different! In my opinion this is not real gold, but the grips are real mother-of-pearl. I don't think the engraving is factory-made but well done for the average Eibar made gun. I enjoyed its fancy look. Very low serial number (#62). That's it, I guess. Hope you enjoy my meager array of vest pocket pistols. Douglas. Attached Thumbnails

10-16-2012, 04:52 PM	#1
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,614 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,520 Times in 939 Posts	25 Autos Besides lugers I have an interest in 25 cal automatics. Don't have much of a collection but here's what I have. (Besides, it's raining hard.) They are interesting and not too expensive. At least the ones I have bought. Essentially worthless except for display. Although I sometimes carry one when riding my motorcycle. Why, I don't know. Top L-R Walther #9, serial #571529 Bayard, serial #33218 Astra, serial #683446 Bottom row L-R Colt, serial #145623 Deutsche Werke Ortgies, #182220 Mauser 1910/1912, #251095 Attached Thumbnails __________________ Bill Lyon

10-16-2012, 05:10 PM	#2
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	I also like the .25 autos. My favorite are the 1910/1934 Mausers. Bob

10-16-2012, 07:36 PM	#3
LWaali User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 99 Thanks: 67 Thanked 20 Times in 9 Posts	Nice set Wylon! I know what you mean about liking something for no apparent reason. I love old Spanish handguns (Campo-Giro, Astra, Llama, Star etc) and mics. .32's. Keep us posted when you get new ones! Linda

10-16-2012, 09:24 PM	#4
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 471 Thanks: 361 Thanked 255 Times in 111 Posts	A fine collection! I have a little FN 1905 vest pocket that was given to me. Unfortunately it has someones name electro-penciled on it but it's a fun little pistol to shoot. Very ambitious safety mechanisms for such a tiny gun. I think the .25 cartridge is more effective than it's generally credited with being. I too also am fond of the Spanish pistols. Maybe its because my Dad had Llama .32 that was one of the first guns I ever shot.

10-16-2012, 10:52 PM	#5
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	I have several and like them for the hell of it. Goy a bunch of old .32s as well. I used an old air conditioner as a target yesterday for a 1910. Got a reasonable group of dents in the side of it. Big bang-little effect.

10-17-2012, 12:51 AM	#6
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,228 Thanks: 111 Thanked 702 Times in 364 Posts	I have 2 wartime Duo's and a post war CZ model 1945, both neat lil guns. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

10-17-2012, 08:31 AM	#7
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The coolest .25 Calibre I ever saw was a fully functional, fully automatic miniature 1921 Thompson Submachinegun. It was some years ago at the old "Great Western" gun show. I wonder where that gun is today.

10-17-2012, 10:25 AM	#8
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	Will, Nice collection, or, as you said, display. I had never paid too much attention for vest pockets pistols until a collector that was leaving the hobby for good gave me a bunch of them for free. I had bought some other (bigger) stuff from from him and he was somewhat anxious to get rid of them, so I got an "instantanious collection". I just need to pay for the necessary paperwork. A few were refinished, but as I had paid nothing, I was quite happy. After that I started to pay more attention to these little guns, and learned to enjoy their creative mechanical features and designs. If you want, I can post some pictures, just don't want to hijack your topic, Bill... Douglas

10-17-2012, 10:38 AM	#9
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,614 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,520 Times in 939 Posts	Douglas Post away. The more the better. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

10-17-2012, 11:41 AM	#12
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	SIMSON MODELL 1926 This is was also refinished. But what really caught my attention was the inscription on the slide: "Fur Oberleutnant Vogel - vom den seine Truppe - 22 -X - 1938" ("To First Lieutnant Vogel - From Your Troops - October 22nd, 1938") Probably an officer's back up gun that was brought back by a Brazilian soldier uring WWII. This is the highest serial number known (as far a I know) of this scarce pistol (#34645). Attached Thumbnails

10-17-2012, 11:48 AM	#14
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	THUNDER MODEL 1919 Impossible not have a pre-Civil War Spanish .25 ACP pistol, isn't it? Here is a Thunder Model 1919 (made by a company named Martin A. Bascarán), with original finish. Interesting design, a kind of departure from the standard Browning copies we often seen. I still need to find its serial number location... Attached Thumbnails

10-17-2012, 12:29 PM	#17
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	Douglas Very nice! Great collection,especially for the price! Love the Webley & Scott pistol,never knew they made a pocket pistol. Are all these guns chambered for the .25 ACP? Thanks bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"

10-17-2012, 02:19 PM	#18
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,614 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,520 Times in 939 Posts	Douglas Very very nice!!! Thanks for sharing. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

10-17-2012, 02:29 PM	#19
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	Bob, Yes, they are all chambered for .25 ammo. I almost posted a Smith & Wesson Safety Hammerless in mint condition but I remembered that this topic was about semiautomatic pistols... Douglas

10-17-2012, 02:31 PM	#20
LWaali User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 99 Thanks: 67 Thanked 20 Times in 9 Posts	Love that little Vesta! Thanks for the share!