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03-28-2008, 01:56 AM | #1 |
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East German loading tool
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I`ve been buying East German magazines and grips and other stuff for a shooter. Especially the mags are very good. Some time ago I bought a tool from Germany and I was told that it is DDR production. It is in vg condition and the "front side" is checkered. That is supposed to make it East German. I haven`t seen a tool like this anywhere before. Are these rare or have I just been blind while hunting down the parts? jussi |
03-28-2008, 06:08 AM | #2 |
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Hi,
The East German loading tools have a number of grooves running over the bottom of the lip. |
03-28-2008, 09:10 AM | #3 |
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Please post a photo of this 'checkering' you mention. Thanks.
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Jussi, At one time Sarco was selling DDR loading tool here in the USA for around $20 each, but they are now sold out, so these are becoming more difficult to find. No too much demand from collectors, but like the mags, they work well. TH
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I'm waiting for an order from Sarco to arrive. Keep missing Lugerdoc's good deals on magazines, so I ordered a "Rare Code 2/1001" milled body magazine. Also ordered an "ORIGINAL FINNISH "SA" MARKED LUGER TAKE DOWN" tool.
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WGD, Sorry but I've been sold out of the DDR made extruded mags for some time. I question the authenticity of Sarco's "SA" marked loading tools. You may want to post a photo of your, to get some feed back from our Scandinavian membership. TH
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Thank you all!
I`ll try to get a picture of the tool for you soon. If someone is looking for those 2/1001 mags, check this place: http://www.egun.de/market/index.php I have made some good deals there. jussi |
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Trying to add a picture here...
No luck! The pic size is ok, but I don`t know how to attach it. Can you give me advice? jussi |
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And I thought that mine is an original tool because it has a stamp that looks like an Erfurt inspection mark
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Alf,
I showed you mine. Now show me yours jussi |
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Well, I consider East-German tools to be 'original tools', as they were made by a valid military P08 using nation for functionality.
Just like the postwar Mauser Parabellum loading tools, that came with the guns, these are originals in their own right as well. |
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My Sarco order arrived. The magazine seems very well made and heavy. Marked 2/1001 on the side, aluminum base marked 6849 with a 2 above. Should be a serviceable magazine until I can find a more correct magazine for my 41 byf.
The tool looks like it was made last week. Don't have a digital camera so no pic. I have to find a magnifying glass. Looks like there is a faint SA in a box, and to the right of the SA there's a mark that looks like a large 7, with maybe some faint mark under the part of the 7 at the top going to the left. |
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Gentlemen, This loading tool was made at the Veb Ernst Thalmann Werk, at the Sauer/Haenel plant-1957/58. I suspect the marking you indicate might be an Erfurt is spurious. As Gerben says..it does not belong there on a post war tool.
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Thanks Jerry. At least now I know what I have and a bit more wiser
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Alf, Difficult to tell from your photo, but the mark on your tool could be a DDR Crown/N, but why they would put a proof mark on a tool, is beyond me. TH
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Texture
Hi Gerben and all, the texture on either the front or back is just a matter of random parts getting flipped over prior to the next operation... this is also true of pre 45 made tools as well, I think there was a conscious effort to have the radiused side up when the tool was formed, but occasionally they came through up-side down, and I'm sure after making a few hundred tools, the thrill was gone... Best to all, til....lat'r....GT
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