Mauser Parabellum - what did I get?

Balder · 09-22-2009, 12:43 PM

Gents,

I picked up this 9mm yesterday; it has supposedly never been fired after leaving the factory in the early 1970's(?). Should I keep it as a safe queen or are these considered shooters? Any input will be highly appreciated.

Balder

Vlim · 09-22-2009, 01:40 PM

Nice gun.

It's an 06/73 (the second type, introduced after 1972), proofed in 1973 for the non-US market. The US-versions lacked the eagle/N proof and had the Interarms logo + text, combined with an FBM (Mauser inhouse proof).

If it came with the box and all accessories, I would keep it as a collector's piece.
You can shoot it, but the deep blue finish will wear rapidly, especially on the frame rails and at the toggle joints.

Ron Wood · 09-22-2009, 03:07 PM

I would like to have one like that. I have had a couple of the U.S. models, but the non-US is particularly attractive and doesn't have so much extra Interarms writing. I'm not a real big fan of these later Mauser pieces, but this one I could live with.

Conny · 09-22-2009, 03:07 PM

That is one of the better ones I've seen. For me, it would be a non-shooter.

Balder · 09-22-2009, 04:51 PM

Gentlemen,

Thanks for your opinions and insight. The pistol came with a very fake (but still good-looking) police-style holster - no box, no manual, no spare magazine and no cleaning rod. I guess I'll keep it off the range; I have 8 other Lugers, 7 of which I can take to the range if the urge to fire a Luger gets overwhelming (and that does happen). So this will be the first exception to my rule of firing all of my guns - I guess I can live with that. I paid roughly what I'd pay for an ordinary 1939-1942 P-08 over here.

Regards,

Balder

SteveM · 09-22-2009, 06:29 PM

That holster that came with your Luger could very well be an Interarms holster. They did sell some in that configuration.

Augsburger · 09-22-2009, 06:51 PM

It's the one I've been looking for!!! Nice gun... Very nice... They are becoming collectable but I would shoot it till my arm hurt. (as I do all my Interarms Lugers) so I don't have to shoot the older collectibles. Reliable accurate and fun, fun. IMHO...cheers

09-22-2009, 09:34 PM

Balder,
Very nice specimen.

Vlim,
Did the European market 06/73 always have the Swiss style sideplate and the US market have the partial hump on the side plate or is this just on the early 06/73 variation? I notice this has the Swiss style side plate like on the 29/70.

Conny · 09-22-2009, 10:18 PM

Hmmmm...1973 model. Lets see....it's unfired, it's 39 years old, perfect condition if not mint and it's NOT a collectable and only a shooter?

If your going to shoot it, sell it to me first. I'll keep it unfired because in a few years, it'll be worth twice what you paid. But sadly, your in Norway and importation is virtually impossible.

Lugerdoc · 09-23-2009, 09:42 AM

Brad, Since the Parabellum shown is the first year of 06/73 production, Mauser was probably still using up parts from the previous model. TH

Vlim · 09-23-2009, 10:34 AM

The Mauser Parabellum can be found in many, many variations. Mauser had a tendency to use what they had and functionality came before 'the model', so it is possible to find a mix match of small parts on the 1972-1973 pistols especially.

This pistol was made somewhere between the end of 1972 and march of 1973, so I'm not really surprised.

Balder · 09-23-2009, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveM

That holster that came with your Luger could very well be an Interarms holster. They did sell some in that configuration.

SteveM et al,

Again, thanks for your inputs. Here are a few pictures of the holster and tool which came with the gun - it will remain unfired as long as it is in my possession.

Balder

Vlim · 09-23-2009, 03:17 PM

The tool is an original Mauser tool from the 1970-1999 era, although many loading tools were unmarked. The holster looks like a repro policeholster.

It makes a nice set, alltogether, though.

SteveM · 09-23-2009, 06:12 PM

The Interarms police style holsters were not marked, as far as I know.

Here is a link to Mauro's site that show the different holsters that Interarms was selling.

http://www.lugerlp08.com/Holster.htm

FNorm · 09-23-2009, 06:22 PM

I'm with Augsburger! I bought a 1973 copy of a 1906 Navy,even to the safety position. Up instead of down. Original box, papers, target, two mags, cleaning rod, and tool. It may be worth more someday, but for right now I shoot it! Hugh redid the grips for me, and GT fixed the mag springs. Nicest people on this forum!

It has the partial plate hump, but seems to be all Swiss type machining inside. Or different than a pre-1942 Luger anyway. No Mauser hump.

Just as my 1964 Triumph TR-4, total frame off redo is a driver, not a trailer queen.

Guys just gotta have fun....

FN

saab-bob · 09-23-2009, 06:22 PM

I never knew that Mauser/Interarms made holsters for these guns.
Something else that I now need to look for!

On the back of the military style holsters,what are the markings? They made a waist band holster as well? That is very cool.
I have a boxed 9mm Swiss 4 inch type that I bought new. I do not shoot it very much as it is uncomfortable to hold.
Very reliable and it has never had any problems,no matter what nasty range reloads I have used.

Augsburger · 11-07-2009, 10:57 AM

If you find an Interarms marked holster, buy it. They are as rare as hens teeth and are very nice holsters as well.

Balder · 04-04-2012, 03:55 PM

Confession: I am now selling the Mauser Parabellum to a friend, making a slight profit. Am I stupid?

Balder

glock30 · 05-07-2012, 05:06 PM

Can I call it a stupid move? I don't think that is a smart move. Slight profit? Well we all can't be Mauro Baudino but every Luger collector should at least have one Mauser Parabellum in my opinion.

alvin · 05-07-2012, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balder

Confession: I am now selling the Mauser Parabellum to a friend, making a slight profit. Am I stupid?

Balder

Be able to share with others is a merit. If no owner sells, where can others get those C&R guns? The factory has stopped making them.

09-22-2009, 12:43 PM	#1
Balder User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 288 Thanks: 20 Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts	Mauser Parabellum - what did I get? Gents, I picked up this 9mm yesterday; it has supposedly never been fired after leaving the factory in the early 1970's(?). Should I keep it as a safe queen or are these considered shooters? Any input will be highly appreciated. Balder

09-22-2009, 03:07 PM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	I would like to have one like that. I have had a couple of the U.S. models, but the non-US is particularly attractive and doesn't have so much extra Interarms writing. I'm not a real big fan of these later Mauser pieces, but this one I could live with. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-22-2009, 03:07 PM	#4
Conny User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Culpeper, Va. Posts: 279 Thanks: 0 Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts	That is one of the better ones I've seen. For me, it would be a non-shooter. __________________ Rangers Lead the Way, Duane Leiker

09-22-2009, 04:51 PM	#5
Balder User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 288 Thanks: 20 Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts	Gentlemen, Thanks for your opinions and insight. The pistol came with a very fake (but still good-looking) police-style holster - no box, no manual, no spare magazine and no cleaning rod. I guess I'll keep it off the range; I have 8 other Lugers, 7 of which I can take to the range if the urge to fire a Luger gets overwhelming (and that does happen). So this will be the first exception to my rule of firing all of my guns - I guess I can live with that. I paid roughly what I'd pay for an ordinary 1939-1942 P-08 over here. Regards, Balder Last edited by Balder; 09-26-2009 at 03:48 PM.

09-22-2009, 06:51 PM	#7
Augsburger User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tejas Posts: 160 Thanks: 17 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	It's the one I've been looking for!!! Nice gun... Very nice... They are becoming collectable but I would shoot it till my arm hurt. (as I do all my Interarms Lugers) so I don't have to shoot the older collectibles. Reliable accurate and fun, fun. IMHO...cheers __________________ Wilder Eber

09-22-2009, 01:40 PM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Nice gun. It's an 06/73 (the second type, introduced after 1972), proofed in 1973 for the non-US market. The US-versions lacked the eagle/N proof and had the Interarms logo + text, combined with an FBM (Mauser inhouse proof). If it came with the box and all accessories, I would keep it as a collector's piece. You can shoot it, but the deep blue finish will wear rapidly, especially on the frame rails and at the toggle joints.

09-22-2009, 06:29 PM	#6
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	That holster that came with your Luger could very well be an Interarms holster. They did sell some in that configuration.

09-22-2009, 09:34 PM	#8
Brad Guest Posts: n/a	Balder, Very nice specimen. Vlim, Did the European market 06/73 always have the Swiss style sideplate and the US market have the partial hump on the side plate or is this just on the early 06/73 variation? I notice this has the Swiss style side plate like on the 29/70.

09-22-2009, 10:18 PM	#9
Conny User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Culpeper, Va. Posts: 279 Thanks: 0 Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts	Hmmmm...1973 model. Lets see....it's unfired, it's 39 years old, perfect condition if not mint and it's NOT a collectable and only a shooter? If your going to shoot it, sell it to me first. I'll keep it unfired because in a few years, it'll be worth twice what you paid. But sadly, your in Norway and importation is virtually impossible. __________________ Rangers Lead the Way, Duane Leiker

09-23-2009, 09:42 AM	#10
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Brad, Since the Parabellum shown is the first year of 06/73 production, Mauser was probably still using up parts from the previous model. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

09-23-2009, 10:34 AM	#11
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	The Mauser Parabellum can be found in many, many variations. Mauser had a tendency to use what they had and functionality came before 'the model', so it is possible to find a mix match of small parts on the 1972-1973 pistols especially. This pistol was made somewhere between the end of 1972 and march of 1973, so I'm not really surprised.

09-23-2009, 03:17 PM	#13
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	The tool is an original Mauser tool from the 1970-1999 era, although many loading tools were unmarked. The holster looks like a repro policeholster. It makes a nice set, alltogether, though.

09-23-2009, 06:12 PM	#14
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	The Interarms police style holsters were not marked, as far as I know. Here is a link to Mauro's site that show the different holsters that Interarms was selling. http://www.lugerlp08.com/Holster.htm

09-23-2009, 06:22 PM	#15
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	I'm with Augsburger! I bought a 1973 copy of a 1906 Navy,even to the safety position. Up instead of down. Original box, papers, target, two mags, cleaning rod, and tool. It may be worth more someday, but for right now I shoot it! Hugh redid the grips for me, and GT fixed the mag springs. Nicest people on this forum! It has the partial plate hump, but seems to be all Swiss type machining inside. Or different than a pre-1942 Luger anyway. No Mauser hump. Just as my 1964 Triumph TR-4, total frame off redo is a driver, not a trailer queen. Guys just gotta have fun.... FN

09-23-2009, 06:22 PM	#16
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	I never knew that Mauser/Interarms made holsters for these guns. Something else that I now need to look for! On the back of the military style holsters,what are the markings? They made a waist band holster as well? That is very cool. I have a boxed 9mm Swiss 4 inch type that I bought new. I do not shoot it very much as it is uncomfortable to hold. Very reliable and it has never had any problems,no matter what nasty range reloads I have used. __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"

11-07-2009, 10:57 AM	#17
Augsburger User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tejas Posts: 160 Thanks: 17 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	If you find an Interarms marked holster, buy it. They are as rare as hens teeth and are very nice holsters as well. __________________ Wilder Eber

04-04-2012, 03:55 PM	#18
Balder User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 288 Thanks: 20 Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts	Confession: I am now selling the Mauser Parabellum to a friend, making a slight profit. Am I stupid? Balder

05-07-2012, 05:06 PM	#19
glock30 User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Obama LAND Posts: 206 Thanks: 18 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts	Can I call it a stupid move? I don't think that is a smart move. Slight profit? Well we all can't be Mauro Baudino but every Luger collector should at least have one Mauser Parabellum in my opinion.