An Early 1900 American Eagle - Page 2

DavidJayUden · 01-13-2016, 08:29 AM

I too would vote "refinish", but whoever did it really knew what they were doing. Is it common to see 3 numbers (vs. 2) on the lower side plate and rear toggle on this model?
dju

hayhugh · 01-13-2016, 10:06 AM

Was "Germany" stamp required way back then?

DavidJayUden · 01-13-2016, 10:37 AM

For guns intended for export to the US, yes. Interesting to note that the test Lugers were ordered without that stamping.
dju

ithacaartist · 01-13-2016, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sabato

Beautiful gun. But I believe it was restored at some point in time... no marks on the back of the gun from working the toggle or being fired, and the gentle curved bevels on the front of the upper receiver look too "soft" instead of defined machine lines to be original...

regardless... This gun is absolutely BEAUTIFUL

I am envious!

I'll join John in seeing the "softness" of this pistol's lines. The first glance at a pic can give that impression, or not, and I try to always check for it before getting into the fine details of the closeups. In this case, however, it is very slight, and definitely a credit to whoever worked on this gun. I wish I could check it out in-hand!

AR-50A1 · 01-13-2016, 04:06 PM

Here is my 1900 all cleaned up. The grip panels (as you can see in the picture below) were filthy.

For those wanting to know, I use Murphy's Wood Soap, a soft bristled tooth brush, rinse in warm water and pat dry with paper towels. I let the panels dry overnight and then use a light application of Liquid Gold.

As always comments are always welcome.

Bill

lugerholsterrepair · 01-13-2016, 04:18 PM

Yup! That's a beauty..NOW! If you could only find the most RARE holster known to man that goes with this pistol...1900-1902.. THAT would be a miracle!

AR-50A1 · 01-13-2016, 04:26 PM

I met a rabid Gnome who said he knows where one is at.

lugerholsterrepair · 01-13-2016, 04:37 PM

I would be VERY nice to that guy cause yer so old you might NEVER come across one in the next 20 years!

cirelaw · 01-13-2016, 04:51 PM

Vert faint toggle marks~

AR-50A1 · 01-13-2016, 07:52 PM

Every time I do business with the Gnome I end up with tiny little bite marks around my ankles... Even happens when I wear boots!

Edward Tinker · 01-13-2016, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AR-50A1

Every time I do business with the Gnome I end up with tiny little bite marks around my ankles... Even happens when I wear boots!

If its the gnome that I know, in the long run, the trade / sales work out pretty fair

AR-50A1 · 01-13-2016, 08:16 PM

Its the cost of needed medical treatment after the 'deal' that hurts the cash flow...

Dwight Gruber · 01-13-2016, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

For guns intended for export to the US, yes. Interesting to note that the test Lugers were ordered without that stamping.
dju

The U.S. test pistols were delivered without the export mark, "ordering" them that way was never a consideration. There is a range of pistols surrounding the Bannerman test pistols, approx. sn 5978-7976, which lack the GERMANY export stamp. Technically, these pistols entered the U.S. illegally. The Test Eagles were delivered directly to the army, it is an open question whether or not the export stamp should have been required for this delivery.

--Dwight

AR-50A1 · 01-14-2016, 10:21 PM

Here is a shot of the metal found under the safety. Also pictured is an original and correct 1900-1902 era holster.

Bill

cirelaw · 01-14-2016, 10:45 PM

Very pretty

Dick Herman · 01-15-2016, 12:55 PM

Great gun, good grip cleaning info, Thank You.

Please give us more details on the holster.

Lugerdoc · 01-15-2016, 01:38 PM

I would call the holster shown, a M1906 Naval pattern, which could be military, if C/M accepted without belt loops for mounting on stock, or commerical or contract, if unmarked, with 2 belt loops on the reverse. The only M1900 holsters that I've seen were the US Military test type and very thin leather commericals. TH

lugerholsterrepair · 01-15-2016, 06:07 PM

Also pictured is an original and correct 1900-1902 era holster. It's so rare not many people even know what it is.

AR-50A1 · 01-15-2016, 10:32 PM

More holster pictures...

CAP Black · 01-15-2016, 10:50 PM

I will add a comment about the cleaning of those old grips with toothbrushes, even soft ones. Be careful that getting them soaking wet will soften them and you could scrub off the diamonds. I use a soft one inch paint brush. and thus not as much scrubbing force occurs.
Jack

01-13-2016, 04:06 PM	#25
AR-50A1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 165 Thanks: 40 Thanked 81 Times in 35 Posts	Here is my 1900 all cleaned up. The grip panels (as you can see in the picture below) were filthy. For those wanting to know, I use Murphy's Wood Soap, a soft bristled tooth brush, rinse in warm water and pat dry with paper towels. I let the panels dry overnight and then use a light application of Liquid Gold. As always comments are always welcome. Bill Attached Thumbnails

01-13-2016, 04:18 PM	#26
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Yup! That's a beauty..NOW! If you could only find the most RARE holster known to man that goes with this pistol...1900-1902.. THAT would be a miracle! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-13-2016, 04:37 PM	#28
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	I would be VERY nice to that guy cause yer so old you might NEVER come across one in the next 20 years! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-14-2016, 10:21 PM	#34
AR-50A1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 165 Thanks: 40 Thanked 81 Times in 35 Posts	Here is a shot of the metal found under the safety. Also pictured is an original and correct 1900-1902 era holster. Bill Attached Thumbnails

01-15-2016, 01:38 PM	#37
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	I would call the holster shown, a M1906 Naval pattern, which could be military, if C/M accepted without belt loops for mounting on stock, or commerical or contract, if unmarked, with 2 belt loops on the reverse. The only M1900 holsters that I've seen were the US Military test type and very thin leather commericals. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-13-2016, 08:29 AM	#21
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I too would vote "refinish", but whoever did it really knew what they were doing. Is it common to see 3 numbers (vs. 2) on the lower side plate and rear toggle on this model? dju

01-13-2016, 10:06 AM	#22
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 882 Thanks: 847 Thanked 507 Times in 270 Posts	Was "Germany" stamp required way back then?

01-13-2016, 10:37 AM	#23
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	For guns intended for export to the US, yes. Interesting to note that the test Lugers were ordered without that stamping. dju

01-13-2016, 04:26 PM	#27
AR-50A1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 165 Thanks: 40 Thanked 81 Times in 35 Posts	I met a rabid Gnome who said he knows where one is at.

01-13-2016, 04:51 PM	#29
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Vert faint toggle marks~

01-13-2016, 07:52 PM	#30
AR-50A1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 165 Thanks: 40 Thanked 81 Times in 35 Posts	Every time I do business with the Gnome I end up with tiny little bite marks around my ankles... Even happens when I wear boots!

01-13-2016, 08:16 PM	#32
AR-50A1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 165 Thanks: 40 Thanked 81 Times in 35 Posts	Its the cost of needed medical treatment after the 'deal' that hurts the cash flow...

01-14-2016, 10:45 PM	#35
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Very pretty

01-15-2016, 12:55 PM	#36
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 354 Times in 138 Posts	Great gun, good grip cleaning info, Thank You. Please give us more details on the holster.

01-15-2016, 06:07 PM	#38
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Also pictured is an original and correct 1900-1902 era holster. It's so rare not many people even know what it is. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-15-2016, 10:32 PM	#39
AR-50A1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 165 Thanks: 40 Thanked 81 Times in 35 Posts	More holster pictures... Attached Thumbnails

01-15-2016, 10:50 PM	#40
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	I will add a comment about the cleaning of those old grips with toothbrushes, even soft ones. Be careful that getting them soaking wet will soften them and you could scrub off the diamonds. I use a soft one inch paint brush. and thus not as much scrubbing force occurs. Jack