BYF42 "m" block question

josef · 01-28-2008, 08:35 PM

Hi, I came across a BYF42 all matching with two unmarked FXO black bottom magazines. The rig came in a Portugese holster. But the holster came attatched to a Wehrmacht belt and buckle, and was brought home by a Canadian soldier in Holland. I have a few questions from the experts.
First, I understood ALL BYF42 late P08s went to Portugal, correct? This one is in the 'n"block.
Second, was "n"the last block for the BYF production of P08s?
Third, I just find it so unlikely this late BYF42, in a Portugese holster, attatched to a Wehrmacht belt and buckle set, was recovered in Holland during the war. Is it even possible this rig could have been given to the Wehrmacht for their use, or have I been led down the road?
My interest is in German P08s, and if this is a Port BYF, what is the value like compared to a German one? I think it is a very nice rig.
I hope to post pics soon, thanks for any help. I did do a search, but still would like to know more. Thanks again,
Joe

EDIT! I thank the forum members for identifying this as a M block, not n, thank you!

josef · 01-28-2008, 09:39 PM

I think I may have been had.....I just read an old post that said many of these P08s from Portugal were imported to Canada in the 1980s....someone likely just put a German belt and buckle on her and made up a story.
The P08 looks great to me, however, and I will soon post pics to show the forum. I did not buy the story, just he rig, and I think I am still pretty pleased. Thanks for tolerating my inexperience,
Joe

wlyon · 01-28-2008, 10:10 PM

As I understand it the Portuguese lugers 42byf were in the serial range of 149m to 5322m. The n issue 42byf's were sold to Bulgaria in 1943.. This came from a couple references. Bill

josef · 01-29-2008, 12:03 AM

Thank you Sir, here are some pics, I think it is in nice condition, one grip appears to have a fair amount of wear compared to the other.

Frank · 01-29-2008, 07:05 AM

Josef, nice rig!! The suffix on your Luger is "M", not "N", so that makes it a Portuguese rather than a Bulgarian Contract!

Jack Lawman · 01-29-2008, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by josef
...one grip appears to have a fair amount of wear compared to the other.

Right grips tend to get banged around more than left grips. Right grip panels face out when worn on a righty's hip.

Very nice rig,
Jack

josef · 01-29-2008, 10:25 AM

Thank you Gentlemen, it is really a nice rig, but I have no interest in Portuguese P08s, so will likely part with it. Are the holster and cleaning rod worth much? Thanks again, such a great forum!
Joe

01-28-2008, 08:35 PM	#1
josef User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CANADA Posts: 194 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	BYF42 "m" block question Hi, I came across a BYF42 all matching with two unmarked FXO black bottom magazines. The rig came in a Portugese holster. But the holster came attatched to a Wehrmacht belt and buckle, and was brought home by a Canadian soldier in Holland. I have a few questions from the experts. First, I understood ALL BYF42 late P08s went to Portugal, correct? This one is in the 'n"block. Second, was "n"the last block for the BYF production of P08s? Third, I just find it so unlikely this late BYF42, in a Portugese holster, attatched to a Wehrmacht belt and buckle set, was recovered in Holland during the war. Is it even possible this rig could have been given to the Wehrmacht for their use, or have I been led down the road? My interest is in German P08s, and if this is a Port BYF, what is the value like compared to a German one? I think it is a very nice rig. I hope to post pics soon, thanks for any help. I did do a search, but still would like to know more. Thanks again, Joe EDIT! I thank the forum members for identifying this as a M block, not n, thank you!

01-28-2008, 10:10 PM	#3
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,615 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,522 Times in 940 Posts	As I understand it the Portuguese lugers 42byf were in the serial range of 149m to 5322m. The n issue 42byf's were sold to Bulgaria in 1943.. This came from a couple references. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

01-28-2008, 09:39 PM	#2
josef User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CANADA Posts: 194 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	I think I may have been had.....I just read an old post that said many of these P08s from Portugal were imported to Canada in the 1980s....someone likely just put a German belt and buckle on her and made up a story. The P08 looks great to me, however, and I will soon post pics to show the forum. I did not buy the story, just he rig, and I think I am still pretty pleased. Thanks for tolerating my inexperience, Joe

01-29-2008, 12:03 AM	#4
josef User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CANADA Posts: 194 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thank you Sir, here are some pics, I think it is in nice condition, one grip appears to have a fair amount of wear compared to the other.

01-29-2008, 07:05 AM	#5
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Josef, nice rig!! The suffix on your Luger is "M", not "N", so that makes it a Portuguese rather than a Bulgarian Contract!

01-29-2008, 10:25 AM	#7
josef User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CANADA Posts: 194 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thank you Gentlemen, it is really a nice rig, but I have no interest in Portuguese P08s, so will likely part with it. Are the holster and cleaning rod worth much? Thanks again, such a great forum! Joe