german (indian) tool

R.Allara · 09-04-2003, 05:48 PM

The Swiss cross on the tool is not the original one. Swiss Army never used that tool, as I heard from Herr Schlatter, the former director of the archive in Eidgenossische Waffenfabrik. Swiss Army switched to new magazine, with a button suitable for the tool, officially after the serial number 750, even though pistols of the second variation are known before that number and pistols of the first variation before it.
Many of those tools are curremtly produced by Gun House in India

Pete Ebbink · 09-04-2003, 08:38 PM

Hello Roberto,

Welcome to the Luger Forum ! Always great to have a new member join and post in the Swiss section...!!!

Could you give us some more info. about the outfit in India...? Do you happen to have one of their tools that we could post photos on the Luger Forum, so we can see the quality (or lack of quality) in their making of a take-down tool ?

Interesting that DWM lugers after the 1900 1st. variation had the "fatter" magazine button, but the Germans decided to develop/issue the typical take-down tool. Wonder why the Swiss decided not to adopt a similar tool.

What are your thoughts about the lack of take-down tool use by the Swiss...?

Maybe as one LF member posted previously and jokingly, the Swiss were heartier people with stronger hands...than their German counterparts <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

mauro · 09-05-2003, 12:02 PM

Hello guys,
I am very happy the Mr. Allara join us in the Lugerforum. Actually Roberto is an Italian big expert not only in the Luger domain but also in several gun topics. He is also the President of the Italian Collectors Association. I really believe that Roberto shall increase the quality of our discussion.
Ciao

John Sabato · 09-05-2003, 01:04 PM

Grazie Mauro...

Benvenuto Roberto.

We welcome your presence in the Lugerforum and look forward to you sharing your personal knowledge of the Luger pistol with this organization.

R.Allara · 09-05-2003, 02:44 PM

Hallo Pete, I'm glad to participate to this forum. The address of Dehli Gun House is
IND-110 006 Dehli, 1374 Kashmere Gate. Fax +91(0)11 2391 7344. Sorry, I cant'find my indian take-down tool. My wife sometime likes to tidy up my small things. You probably know as it goes on...
As soon as I'll find again the tool, you'll get the photo.
The main purpose of the adoption of an automatic pistol was to give a gun having a good fire capacity to the cavalry. Of course a magazine can't be reloaded staying on an horse, even using a take-down tool

09-04-2003, 05:48 PM	#1
R.Allara User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	german (indian) tool The Swiss cross on the tool is not the original one. Swiss Army never used that tool, as I heard from Herr Schlatter, the former director of the archive in Eidgenossische Waffenfabrik. Swiss Army switched to new magazine, with a button suitable for the tool, officially after the serial number 750, even though pistols of the second variation are known before that number and pistols of the first variation before it. Many of those tools are curremtly produced by Gun House in India

09-05-2003, 12:02 PM	#3
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Hello guys, I am very happy the Mr. Allara join us in the Lugerforum. Actually Roberto is an Italian big expert not only in the Luger domain but also in several gun topics. He is also the President of the Italian Collectors Association. I really believe that Roberto shall increase the quality of our discussion. Ciao __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

09-05-2003, 01:04 PM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Grazie Mauro... Benvenuto Roberto. We welcome your presence in the Lugerforum and look forward to you sharing your personal knowledge of the Luger pistol with this organization. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-04-2003, 08:38 PM	#2
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Roberto, Welcome to the Luger Forum ! Always great to have a new member join and post in the Swiss section...!!! Could you give us some more info. about the outfit in India...? Do you happen to have one of their tools that we could post photos on the Luger Forum, so we can see the quality (or lack of quality) in their making of a take-down tool ? Interesting that DWM lugers after the 1900 1st. variation had the "fatter" magazine button, but the Germans decided to develop/issue the typical take-down tool. Wonder why the Swiss decided not to adopt a similar tool. What are your thoughts about the lack of take-down tool use by the Swiss...? Maybe as one LF member posted previously and jokingly, the Swiss were heartier people with stronger hands...than their German counterparts <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

09-05-2003, 02:44 PM	#5
R.Allara User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hallo Pete, I'm glad to participate to this forum. The address of Dehli Gun House is IND-110 006 Dehli, 1374 Kashmere Gate. Fax +91(0)11 2391 7344. Sorry, I cant'find my indian take-down tool. My wife sometime likes to tidy up my small things. You probably know as it goes on... As soon as I'll find again the tool, you'll get the photo. The main purpose of the adoption of an automatic pistol was to give a gun having a good fire capacity to the cavalry. Of course a magazine can't be reloaded staying on an horse, even using a take-down tool