Building a Swiss Luger Collection

Lugers down under · 01-27-2007, 04:35 PM

Building a Swiss Luger Collection...One Luger At A Time...
As Pete would say.
I have managed to obtain the last two variations to complete my Swiss collection of primary models.

From left to right.
1900 Cross in Sun burst, 1900/06 Cross in Sun burst, 1900/06 Cross in Shield, 1906/19 Waffen Fabrik Bern, 1906/24 W+F.

All. but one of these Swiss Lugers were obtained here in New Zealand, the exception being the 1900/06 Cross in Shield.

The 1900/06 Cross in Sun burst is possibly the best condition Luger I have owned. I cannot fault it. 100% blue and straw, all matching including grips,
Serial #7983 I believe puts it into 1907 . It has a matching 1907 Holster.

The 1906/24 is in excellent condition and is dated 10.43 which makes it two months younger than me.
It does not have a private number but does have a large "P" stamped on the front of the trigger guard.

I will be happy to provide any photos or comments.

Kind wishes

Murray.

policeluger · 01-27-2007, 05:27 PM

Just beautiful!!!!

Lyn Islaub · 01-27-2007, 10:09 PM

Ah Murray, you have such nice toys. How about some pictures of your Class 3 toys too, just to keep us entertained. Certainly enjoyed meeting you while you were in Phoenix and hope you can make it back next year.
Lyn

Lugers down under · 01-27-2007, 10:37 PM

Hello Lyn,
Nice to hear from you again
I am pleased you like the Swiss Lugers.

I know it is very off topic of Lugers but below is a photograph of my dinner guests for Thanks giving dinner last year.

I trust that you approve,

Regards
Murray.

DaveinTN · 01-27-2007, 11:40 PM

Your Lugers are very impressive.

Regarding the machine guns: As W. C. Fields would say when he was surprised or startled, "Godfrey Daniel!"

That's one heck of a picture.... are they M1928's and can they be fired?

Dave in TN.

Lugers down under · 01-28-2007, 12:09 AM

Thanks Dave in TN,

No! They are not all Model of 1928A1, in fact, the first three are Models of 1921, made by Colt Patent fire arms and are all three digit serial numbers made in the very first weeks of 1921.

Furthermore, they are all "George G Rorke" guns and were part of the smuggled shipment to Ireland on the "MV Eastside" in 1921, later investigated by J.Edgar Hover in 1921, his first case.

They are the rarest of the production Colt Thompson and are refered to in Helmers book, "The gun that made the twenties roar" as "the Irish Sword"

"We are off to Dublin, in the green, in the green,
Where the helmets glisten in the sun,
Where the bayonets flash and the the rifle crash,
To the echo of a Thompson gun."

The next three are Models of 1928, both Savage and Auto ordance made
and the last two are an M1 Thompson by Savage arms and a M1A1 by Auto Ord.

As you might have gathered, my second interest is Thompsons.
They go very well with the Irish Navy Lugers of Sir Roger Casement, but ah! but that is another story!to be sure!to be sure.

Regards
Murray

And yes, they are fully operational but one would not fire them as one would not fire ones Borchardt.

DaveinTN · 01-28-2007, 03:01 AM

Murray,

This doesn't happen very often, but I am lost for words........

That's a remarkable collection you have there.....

Dave in TN.

c3006 · 01-28-2007, 07:39 AM

New Zealand must not be to bad a place to live

the gunman · 01-28-2007, 10:01 AM

A beautyful sight to behold

thegundude · 01-28-2007, 11:12 AM

As Dave has just said, I too am at a loss for words. To say that I am very impressed is still the epitome of understatement. I thought the Swiss collection was impressive (and it still is) but those Tommys make them look kind of plain... Just amazing...

Furthermore, I'm am honored that you chose to display them over an American flag. My hat is tipped to you and an open invitation to visit the Biltmore House is given anytime you're in Western North Carolina

minigun · 01-28-2007, 11:15 PM

That is just simply the neatest thing I've seen in a long while! MORE pics of the Thompson's please.....

DCCUK · 01-31-2007, 07:31 AM

Swiss Lugers and Irish Tommy guns.....
what an amazing Collection...and in New Zealand....
What is the law over there on those type of guns?
I still shoot my 1917 P '08 over here in the UK but have to keep it at Bisley.
Owning or shooting a Tommy gun is out of the question.

BR DCCUK

01-27-2007, 04:35 PM	#1
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Building a Swiss Luger Collection Building a Swiss Luger Collection...One Luger At A Time... As Pete would say. I have managed to obtain the last two variations to complete my Swiss collection of primary models. From left to right. 1900 Cross in Sun burst, 1900/06 Cross in Sun burst, 1900/06 Cross in Shield, 1906/19 Waffen Fabrik Bern, 1906/24 W+F. All. but one of these Swiss Lugers were obtained here in New Zealand, the exception being the 1900/06 Cross in Shield. The 1900/06 Cross in Sun burst is possibly the best condition Luger I have owned. I cannot fault it. 100% blue and straw, all matching including grips, Serial #7983 I believe puts it into 1907 . It has a matching 1907 Holster. The 1906/24 is in excellent condition and is dated 10.43 which makes it two months younger than me. It does not have a private number but does have a large "P" stamped on the front of the trigger guard. I will be happy to provide any photos or comments. Kind wishes Murray. __________________ Lugers down under

01-27-2007, 10:37 PM	#4
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Hello Lyn, Nice to hear from you again I am pleased you like the Swiss Lugers. I know it is very off topic of Lugers but below is a photograph of my dinner guests for Thanks giving dinner last year. I trust that you approve, Regards Murray. __________________ Lugers down under

01-28-2007, 12:09 AM	#6
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks Dave in TN, No! They are not all Model of 1928A1, in fact, the first three are Models of 1921, made by Colt Patent fire arms and are all three digit serial numbers made in the very first weeks of 1921. Furthermore, they are all "George G Rorke" guns and were part of the smuggled shipment to Ireland on the "MV Eastside" in 1921, later investigated by J.Edgar Hover in 1921, his first case. They are the rarest of the production Colt Thompson and are refered to in Helmers book, "The gun that made the twenties roar" as "the Irish Sword" "We are off to Dublin, in the green, in the green, Where the helmets glisten in the sun, Where the bayonets flash and the the rifle crash, To the echo of a Thompson gun." The next three are Models of 1928, both Savage and Auto ordance made and the last two are an M1 Thompson by Savage arms and a M1A1 by Auto Ord. As you might have gathered, my second interest is Thompsons. They go very well with the Irish Navy Lugers of Sir Roger Casement, but ah! but that is another story!to be sure!to be sure. Regards Murray And yes, they are fully operational but one would not fire them as one would not fire ones Borchardt. __________________ Lugers down under

01-28-2007, 07:39 AM	#8
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	New Zealand must not be to bad a place to live __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

01-28-2007, 11:12 AM	#10
thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	As Dave has just said, I too am at a loss for words. To say that I am very impressed is still the epitome of understatement. I thought the Swiss collection was impressive (and it still is) but those Tommys make them look kind of plain... Just amazing... Furthermore, I'm am honored that you chose to display them over an American flag. My hat is tipped to you and an open invitation to visit the Biltmore House is given anytime you're in Western North Carolina __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

01-27-2007, 05:27 PM	#2
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Just beautiful!!!!

01-27-2007, 10:09 PM	#3
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	Ah Murray, you have such nice toys. How about some pictures of your Class 3 toys too, just to keep us entertained. Certainly enjoyed meeting you while you were in Phoenix and hope you can make it back next year. Lyn

01-27-2007, 11:40 PM	#5
DaveinTN User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 186 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts	Your Lugers are very impressive. Regarding the machine guns: As W. C. Fields would say when he was surprised or startled, "Godfrey Daniel!" That's one heck of a picture.... are they M1928's and can they be fired? Dave in TN.

01-28-2007, 03:01 AM	#7
DaveinTN User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 186 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts	Murray, This doesn't happen very often, but I am lost for words........ That's a remarkable collection you have there..... Dave in TN. Attached Images

01-28-2007, 10:01 AM	#9
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	A beautyful sight to behold

01-28-2007, 11:15 PM	#11
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 15 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	That is just simply the neatest thing I've seen in a long while! MORE pics of the Thompson's please.....

01-31-2007, 07:31 AM	#12
DCCUK User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N Somerset, UK Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Swiss Lugers and Irish Tommy guns..... what an amazing Collection...and in New Zealand.... What is the law over there on those type of guns? I still shoot my 1917 P '08 over here in the UK but have to keep it at Bisley. Owning or shooting a Tommy gun is out of the question. BR DCCUK