Swiss Luger, New Territory for Me

Aaron · 05-11-2006, 08:35 PM

My field of interest has always been military Lugers, and I know virtually nothing about the Swiss variety, so seeking enlightment, I turn to my fellow gurus. I have been offered (sight unseen) a 1929 Swiss, serial #71130, described as having brown plastic grips and mag bottom (with Swiss cross), and in 97% condition. No holster or accessories. Firm asking price is $1975. Is the seller off base?

Pete Ebbink · 05-11-2006, 11:10 PM

Hi Aaron,

A M1929 Bern with serial # 71130, according to the V. Bobba book info. should more than likely have the later black plastic grips and magazine. Brown switched to black plastic in the Ordnance lugers around # 65xxx. Even with a couple of hundred guns overlapping, # 71130 seem a little late to have brown plastic, IMHO.

The firm price seems a bit high. I would hope to pick up such a # 71xxx gun in that condition for around $ 1800 or so from a fellow collector...a bit more from a retail dealer with retail shop overheads.

The folks at FGS are selling this one with holster for $ 1750 (see bottom of page) :

http://www.fgsinc.8m.com/catalog.html

(This one is an even later # 73xxx also with brown plastic).

Simspons has a few late Berns in the $ 1900 to $ 2200 price range in strong 96% + condition.

http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?...sort=2a&page=2

Aaron · 05-12-2006, 01:36 AM

Thanks Pete, I suspected that it wasn't a bargain.

Pete Ebbink · 05-12-2006, 04:06 PM

Hi Aaron,

If you are considering only adding one (1) M1929 Swiss Bern to your collection, I would suggest holding out for a red variety...either Ordnance or one of the more rare commercial ones with the P as part of the serial number (not to be confused with Ordnance P-dated released lugers).

The red ones are striking in their color beauty and contrast and are more desireable amongst some collectors and command a bit more at resale time as well.

Aaron · 05-12-2006, 08:20 PM

Excellent advice, I'll keep my eyes open. Thanks.........

05-11-2006, 08:35 PM	#1
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Swiss Luger, New Territory for Me My field of interest has always been military Lugers, and I know virtually nothing about the Swiss variety, so seeking enlightment, I turn to my fellow gurus. I have been offered (sight unseen) a 1929 Swiss, serial #71130, described as having brown plastic grips and mag bottom (with Swiss cross), and in 97% condition. No holster or accessories. Firm asking price is $1975. Is the seller off base?

05-11-2006, 11:10 PM	#2
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Aaron, A M1929 Bern with serial # 71130, according to the V. Bobba book info. should more than likely have the later black plastic grips and magazine. Brown switched to black plastic in the Ordnance lugers around # 65xxx. Even with a couple of hundred guns overlapping, # 71130 seem a little late to have brown plastic, IMHO. The firm price seems a bit high. I would hope to pick up such a # 71xxx gun in that condition for around $ 1800 or so from a fellow collector...a bit more from a retail dealer with retail shop overheads. The folks at FGS are selling this one with holster for $ 1750 (see bottom of page) : http://www.fgsinc.8m.com/catalog.html (This one is an even later # 73xxx also with brown plastic). Simspons has a few late Berns in the $ 1900 to $ 2200 price range in strong 96% + condition. http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?...sort=2a&page=2

05-12-2006, 01:36 AM	#3
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Thanks Pete, I suspected that it wasn't a bargain.

05-12-2006, 04:06 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Aaron, If you are considering only adding one (1) M1929 Swiss Bern to your collection, I would suggest holding out for a red variety...either Ordnance or one of the more rare commercial ones with the P as part of the serial number (not to be confused with Ordnance P-dated released lugers). The red ones are striking in their color beauty and contrast and are more desireable amongst some collectors and command a bit more at resale time as well.

05-12-2006, 08:20 PM	#5
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Excellent advice, I'll keep my eyes open. Thanks.........