New Luger owner

garyed50 · 04-12-2015, 08:28 PM

Hi all

I recently picked up a DWM Luger from 1914 looks to be in good to very good condition all numbers match

I've learned it may have been reblued and may be a russian capture. Can you guys confirm?

Gary

aldo35 · 04-12-2015, 09:51 PM

Hi,

It appears to be reblued as parts normally strawed(tigger, safety and locking bolt) are now blued. Russian captured pistols usually have some defacing of Nazi proofs and yours appear to be original.

Aldo35

DavidJayUden · 04-12-2015, 11:51 PM

Probably need closer photos to be certain, especially the side plate, front numbers, etc, but at first glance if seems to have repro. grips and yes, the small parts have been blued. Not a hard fix if you want to fix it, but of course it will never be original again.
dju

garyed50 · 04-13-2015, 05:45 PM

Hi

I didn't have enough time for detailed pics I was doing the paperwork for the background check at the time. When I pick it up on the 20th I'll do some more detailed closeups. Still Can't believe I managed to find a Luger WOW

Gary

wlyon · 04-13-2015, 06:06 PM

If you paid a collectible price for this I would return it. The bluing on several small parts takes it out of the collectible status. If you paid a shooter price good deal, should make a good shooter. I do not think it was a Russian capture luger. Welcome to the Forum. Bill

garyed50 · 04-13-2015, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlyon

If you paid a collectible price for this I would return it. The bluing on several small parts takes it out of the collectible status. If you paid a shooter price good deal, should make a good shooter. I do not think it was a Russian capture luger. Welcome to the Forum. Bill

Thank you sir

its was a shooter price I wanted something I could take to the range every once and a while.

Gary

rhuff · 04-14-2015, 03:54 PM

As mentioned above, if you wish to straw the appropriate pieces of your Luger as it was originally, that can be done fairly easy. If not, no harm, no foul. Let us know how it shoots. Avoid +P, +P+, and NATO ammo for fear of breaking parts. Stick with WWB, PMC, etc. std velocity 115-124gr FMJ ammo and you should be fine.

garyed50 · 04-15-2015, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhuff

As mentioned above, if you wish to straw the appropriate pieces of your Luger as it was originally, that can be done fairly easy. If not, no harm, no foul. Let us know how it shoots. Avoid +P, +P+, and NATO ammo for fear of breaking parts. Stick with WWB, PMC, etc. std velocity 115-124gr FMJ ammo and you should be fine.

I bought a box of WWB 115 FMJ for the first range trip. if I was to have the strawing done any idea what it may cost?

Gary

ithacaartist · 04-15-2015, 10:24 PM

Wah! Gary, don't pay for that! the parts are easily enough removed and prepped, and it's toaster oven technology! Simple how-to somewhere in the FAQ. It's the easiest spiff-up to do, give it a try!

rhuff · 04-16-2015, 03:26 PM

As David stated above, it is not rocket science, UNLESS you have no mechanical skills or desire to do it. I have done it a couple of times, and if it doesn't turn out good the first time, you just do it again. The straw color is produced by heating bare prepped metal to a certain temp. There is a good sticky on it.

garyed50 · 04-20-2015, 02:13 PM

Picked it up today and it looks pretty good. These numbers all look ok

But is the one on the far right in this pic original?

Gary

DavidJayUden · 04-20-2015, 02:46 PM

The etched number on the ear toggle link is not original and the X over the other numbers, along with the black finish suggest a Russian captured gun. It will never be a collectable piece, at least not in this crowd, but it should be a very fun shooter.
dju

Sergio Natali · 04-20-2015, 03:24 PM

Sadly it was reblued and outrageously marked with an electric pen on the rear toggle by the Russians.
Anyway can surely be quite a good shooter.

Sergio

garyed50 · 04-21-2015, 07:46 PM

Is there anyway to tell if the holster that came with it is real or a reproduction?

Gary

saab-bob · 04-21-2015, 08:42 PM

Hello Gary
IMHO that looks like a original holster for a Portuguese contract luger.
Definitely has value.
Here is a link to a luger web page that shows the different versions of this holster.
http://www.landofborchardt.com/holsters.html#port
Hope this helps.

Bob

garyed50 · 04-21-2015, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saab-bob

Hello Gary
IMHO that looks like a original holster for a Portuguese contract luger.
Definitely has value.
Here is a link to a luger web page that shows the different versions of this holster.
http://www.landofborchardt.com/holsters.html#port
Hope this helps.

Bob

Thanks Bob that does help

Gary

garyed50 · 04-21-2015, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saab-bob

Hello Gary
IMHO that looks like a original holster for a Portuguese contract luger.
Definitely has value.
Here is a link to a luger web page that shows the different versions of this holster.
http://www.landofborchardt.com/holsters.html#port
Hope this helps.

Bob

Would seem to imply that the pistol spent time in Portugal but of course it could have been in a dozen or more holsters in 101 years

Gary

Lugerdoc · 04-22-2015, 10:02 AM

Gary, Your holster with the added pin punch holder next to the cleaning rod pouch, is what most folks call the M1906 Brazilian type. TH

DavidJayUden · 04-22-2015, 10:33 AM

I didn't see what you paid for the gun and holster, but the holster may have saved the deal for you.
Gentlemen, what are these holsters bringing today?
dju

garyed50 · 04-25-2015, 08:51 PM

Took it to the range today. 115 grain FMJ did pretty good

Though i did get quite a few stovepipe jams.

Gary

04-12-2015, 08:28 PM	#1
garyed50 User Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	New Luger owner Hi all I recently picked up a DWM Luger from 1914 looks to be in good to very good condition all numbers match I've learned it may have been reblued and may be a russian capture. Can you guys confirm? Gary

04-12-2015, 09:51 PM	#2
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 318 Thanks: 2,160 Thanked 138 Times in 70 Posts	1914 Luger Hi, It appears to be reblued as parts normally strawed(tigger, safety and locking bolt) are now blued. Russian captured pistols usually have some defacing of Nazi proofs and yours appear to be original. Aldo35

04-13-2015, 06:06 PM	#5
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,615 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,523 Times in 940 Posts	If you paid a collectible price for this I would return it. The bluing on several small parts takes it out of the collectible status. If you paid a shooter price good deal, should make a good shooter. I do not think it was a Russian capture luger. Welcome to the Forum. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

04-15-2015, 10:24 PM	#9
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,284 Thanks: 7,013 Thanked 2,478 Times in 1,320 Posts	Wah! Gary, don't pay for that! the parts are easily enough removed and prepped, and it's toaster oven technology! Simple how-to somewhere in the FAQ. It's the easiest spiff-up to do, give it a try! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

04-20-2015, 03:24 PM	#13
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Sadly it was reblued and outrageously marked with an electric pen on the rear toggle by the Russians. Anyway can surely be quite a good shooter. Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

04-12-2015, 11:51 PM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Probably need closer photos to be certain, especially the side plate, front numbers, etc, but at first glance if seems to have repro. grips and yes, the small parts have been blued. Not a hard fix if you want to fix it, but of course it will never be original again. dju

04-13-2015, 05:45 PM	#4
garyed50 User Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Hi I didn't have enough time for detailed pics I was doing the paperwork for the background check at the time. When I pick it up on the 20th I'll do some more detailed closeups. Still Can't believe I managed to find a Luger WOW Gary

04-14-2015, 03:54 PM	#7
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,270 Thanks: 2,686 Thanked 958 Times in 704 Posts	As mentioned above, if you wish to straw the appropriate pieces of your Luger as it was originally, that can be done fairly easy. If not, no harm, no foul. Let us know how it shoots. Avoid +P, +P+, and NATO ammo for fear of breaking parts. Stick with WWB, PMC, etc. std velocity 115-124gr FMJ ammo and you should be fine.

04-16-2015, 03:26 PM	#10
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,270 Thanks: 2,686 Thanked 958 Times in 704 Posts	As David stated above, it is not rocket science, UNLESS you have no mechanical skills or desire to do it. I have done it a couple of times, and if it doesn't turn out good the first time, you just do it again. The straw color is produced by heating bare prepped metal to a certain temp. There is a good sticky on it.

04-20-2015, 02:13 PM	#11
garyed50 User Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Picked it up today and it looks pretty good. These numbers all look ok But is the one on the far right in this pic original? Gary

04-20-2015, 02:46 PM	#12
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	The etched number on the ear toggle link is not original and the X over the other numbers, along with the black finish suggest a Russian captured gun. It will never be a collectable piece, at least not in this crowd, but it should be a very fun shooter. dju

04-21-2015, 07:46 PM	#14
garyed50 User Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Is there anyway to tell if the holster that came with it is real or a reproduction? Gary

04-21-2015, 08:42 PM	#15
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	Hello Gary IMHO that looks like a original holster for a Portuguese contract luger. Definitely has value. Here is a link to a luger web page that shows the different versions of this holster. http://www.landofborchardt.com/holsters.html#port Hope this helps. Bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"

04-22-2015, 10:02 AM	#18
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Gary, Your holster with the added pin punch holder next to the cleaning rod pouch, is what most folks call the M1906 Brazilian type. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

04-22-2015, 10:33 AM	#19
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I didn't see what you paid for the gun and holster, but the holster may have saved the deal for you. Gentlemen, what are these holsters bringing today? dju

04-25-2015, 08:51 PM	#20
garyed50 User Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Range report Took it to the range today. 115 grain FMJ did pretty good Though i did get quite a few stovepipe jams. Gary