Damaged carbine

[Dwight Gruber]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Dwight,
you have a knack for stating the obvious!
Like the Geico commercial says: "everybody knows that".

...except that I'm not sure "everybody knows that." It's one thing to bandy about that "making a carbine barrel is easy," and quite another to actually realize that accurately re-creating a carbine barrel might not be so simple. I was posting this for the people reading this who might not have the experience with or particular knowledge about the topic.

And that includes people even like me, for instance--I was not conscious of this particular difficulty until I talked to Tom Heller about this specific topic a couple of years ago.

--Dwight

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by Dwight Gruber

...except that I'm not sure "everybody knows that." It's one thing to bandy about that "making a carbine barrel is easy," and quite another to actually realize that accurately re-creating a carbine barrel might not be so simple. I was posting this for the people reading this who might not have the experience with or particular knowledge about the topic.

And that includes people even like me, for instance--I was not conscious of this particular difficulty until I talked to Tom Heller about this specific topic a couple of years ago.

--Dwight

Touche! I should have said "easy" for someone with the equipment, know how, drawings or example, experience, time, and desire to duplicate a barrel.

But Ed was my target, he does not "need" to accpt a 9mm barrel if he does not really want to.

[Vlim]

I have the Swiss leaf spring drawing somewhere. Will look it up.

[Vlim]

Found it:

Swiss drawing for the 'P00' 1900 model leaf spring.

[DonVoigt]

Thanks much, Vilm.

This one appears to be the "middle" iteration with two leaves of equal thickness, in this case the indicated 0.9mm.

[Edward Tinker]

Met the gentleman on-line when he asked for help on it about 2.5 yrs ago - revisited the discussion to buy from him several times, and we just couldn't agree. Then after I moved, I talked to him and we struck a deal and then all the above (see first posting in this thread)

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Almost finished product.

This was a long, but short project. I want to thank Don Voigt for helping me so much, he provided the barrel and much skill. I got the sights from Tom Heller from a 9mm barrel he had, I decided to stick with the original caliber of 7.65mm, and Don tested it with PPU after much labor and putting it together.
Thanks to Ron Wood , Dwight Gruber, Jerry Burney and GT (Gerald Tomeck) for advise, pictures and encouragement.
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Later decision is there whether to send it to Danner and have him reblue it all in the old way, so its not so shiny and all looks alike, then do I want to have Jim re-checker it all for me?
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Specifications
1900 DWM
All matching to include carbine stock
7.65mm Barrel, proper length of a carbine

[Edward Tinker]

Compare my Old Model Carbine (AKA 1902 carbine) and my 9mm 16 inch carbine

[DonVoigt]

Ed,
thanks for the kind words. I am proud to have been involved in saving this mistreated old carbine!
I want to add my thanks to all who contributed information, parts, and encouragement during the project, it was a "village" effort for sure.

I vote for a trip to Danner asap for a rust blue finish, it will look great - without the "shine".
At the same time, you can get Jim to refresh the wood checkering, stain, and give it a little finish- you won't believe how good it will look! JMHO.

[lugerholsterrepair]

Magical!! REALLY nice and came together much faster than I thought it might! I agree with Don..Get Danner to rust blue it and straw. Get the checkering gone over..You will have a piece to be proud of!
Does it shoot?

[Edward Tinker]

I am sitting at my work desk at home and it arrived about 3 hrs ago - so have not shot it, but Don test fired it before barrel conversion and afterwards.

[cirelaw]

Good Thing You Don't Have Three Arms!

[cirelaw]

Johns' Carbine~https://www.rockislandauction.com/de...ine-with-stock

[DavidJayUden]

"I am sitting at my work desk at home and it arrived about 3 hrs ago - so have not shot it"

Three hours? What are you waiting for? We want to know how it shoots...
Very nice!
dju

[cirelaw]

Its like your new baby! You will forever remember theses moments!!! She is now a part of your life~ God Bless! I share your feeling~ Ed knows that sacred feeling! Someday I might atttach one of my drums! Eric

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by cirelaw

Johns' Carbine~https://www.rockislandauction.com/de...ine-with-stock

Ed wanted/needed the rear sight on the barrel to keep his 1902 carbine correct as made; making the "navy sight" style carbine is much simpler!

I've posted these before:
16" 9mm barrel, and 11.75" 7,65mm barrel , each with it's own receiver making a "zwilliger" carbine( is that even a word?), i.e. twin caliber carbine.
Picture shows the 16" bbl upper installed; I can't find a picture of the finished 11" upper.
Wood checkered and finished by Jim Solomon; rust blue by Charles Danner.
I made the fore arm from scratch, and the stock was a semi-inlet blank I got from Sheepherder- but I don't remember who made it.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

I made the fore arm from scratch, and the stock was a semi-inlet blank I got from Sheepherder- but I don't remember who made it.

Macon Gunstocks -

https://www.shop.macongunstocks.com/...lder-Stock.htm

[cirelaw]

Wow!!!! Tks