Luger commercial model 1900 7'' barrel.

[laoshi75]

A few weeks ago I sold on ebay a strange holster left from my collection (cheap price). I never identified it precisely, I guessed it was an early commercial artillery one. Yesterday I was looking again at the wonderfull site Land of Borchardt, and I found a photo of this holster, with a "early commercial Luger model 1900 with a 7'' barrel, manufactued by DWM in a very few quantity, particularly for the South American market" (precisions from Land of Borchardt). I even did not know this model existed. Just curious to know if a forum member does have this model in his collection. Thank you.
The 1st pic is the holster I sold recently. The 2nd pic is from Land of Borchardt (Is it copyrighted ?).
PS: Don't be surprised, the holster I sold looks new, but it has been repaired some years ago in Germany. This is an original one !

[DonVoigt]

Nice holster.
Thanks for posting, learned something new today!

[Douglas Jr.]

It is somewhat funny to see that every oddball or uncommon variation is usually attributed as "made for the South American market". Wish I could find so many rare variations down here. The same goes for the Mauser C96 in 99 Mauser Export, the Mauser Model 1912 and now this Luger Model 1900 with long barrel.

But your former holster is a fantastic piece indeed.

[Dwight Gruber]

The 7" barrel Old Model Parabellums were a batch of early carbine tests made for the Chilean army in 1902. According to Sturgess, these are found in the 10001-10020 serial range, some with duplicate numbers. Note the stock lug, it is for a pushbutton stock. Some had a six-position adjustable rear sight.

Sturgess discusses this variation in some detail between pp. 218 to 256 and salted in elsewhere (the red edition).

My example, sn 10012. Standard rear sight.

--Dwight

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Dwight Gruber

My example, sn 10012. Standard rear sight.

--Dwight

Dwight -

Could the barrel on yours be considered an 'extended pencil profile' taper???

[Ron Wood]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Dwight -

Could the barrel on yours be considered an 'extended pencil profile' taper???

Sounds a heck of a lot more fancy and technical than stove poker.

[laoshi75]

Dwight,
Many thanks for the education and the photo. Are the wood stocks of these ultra rare pistols serial numbered please ?

[DavidJayUden]

Those look sweet. Love to shoot jackrabbits with one...
dju

[Dwight Gruber]

According to Sturgess, stocks are serial numbered on top of the stock iron.

And I would have loved to have had the holster *sigh*

--Dwight

[Lyn Islaub]

I would agree with Douglas Jr. in that finding a rare Luger in South America, or even a common Luge, is a tough search. I traveled extensively in South America before I retired in 2012 and Buenos Aires, Montevideo, Santiago, Lima, Bogota and Quito were pretty dry. I did find a really nice double decal Kreigsmarine M35 helmet in a Lima flea market a few years ago, but that was about it.
Lyn

[Douglas Jr.]

Originally Posted by Dwight Gruber

The 7" barrel Old Model Parabellums were a batch of early carbine tests made for the Chilean army in 1902. According to Sturgess, these are found in the 10001-10020 serial range, some with duplicate numbers. Note the stock lug, it is for a pushbutton stock. Some had a six-position adjustable rear sight.

Sturgess discusses this variation in some detail between pp. 218 to 256 and salted in elsewhere (the red edition).

My example, sn 10012. Standard rear sight.

--Dwight

Dwight
Thanks for the clarification.
Just to clarify: I was not questioning the originality of such early long barrel Lugers, just the connection with South America claimed in many instances for different guns.
However, if supported by the correct documentation I surely stand corrected.
All the best,
Douglas

[Dwight Gruber]

Douglas,

Understood.

--Dwight