1917 DWM Luger - Please help !!! - Page 2

George Anderson · 04-28-2004, 09:55 PM

Tac,
Your ancestors also looted my family's church and home in 1814. But what the hell, we kicked your asses back across the Atlantic and are glad to have you as allies now.

Pete Ebbink · 04-29-2004, 12:57 AM

Hi Mark,

Belated "Welcome to the Luger Forum".

Thanks for posting your Artillery luger !

It looks like your 1917 has both the fine-tune (adjustable) front and rear sights...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

MarkR · 04-29-2004, 01:46 AM

Thank you Pete. Yes it does.

Anyone care to advise me on whether I should use this pistol or encase it in a display cabinet. Would seem such a pity not to use it as it's still in beautiful condition and sure to turn heads at the shooting range.

I believe this could be a touchy subject as I have come across posts where references have been made about heated discussions regarding this. Anyone care to inform me what the verdict is ? :-)

If it can still be used as a shooter what should I do regarding the jamming problem ? As I mentioned before the spent cartridge doesn't clear quickly enough and when it jams it has the live round half way up into the chamber and the spent round jammed between the breech block and the chamber.

lugerholsterrepair · 04-29-2004, 12:54 PM

Mark, You need some more powerful ammo. With the last round in the chamber fired , does the holdopen activate and keep the toggle back?

I have broken many parts on Lugers. For years I thought this would not be a problem but found it is likely to happen at any time. Grips cracking, extractors breaking etc. I like to shoot my weapons but there are some I will not shoot including my 1916 marked Artillery, all matching including magazine. Too expensive to break a part and I have another shooter Artillery anyway.
Good Luck! Jerry Burney

Doubs · 04-29-2004, 01:25 PM

Dear Mr. Tac, I yield to your superior story-telling talents. I am impressed by your knowledge of our patriots.

I'm reminded of a gentleman who was for many years a photographer for the "Baltimore Sun" newspaper, a well respected publication. His name was A. Aubrey Bodine and he was somewhat peculiar in certain respects. He would, on occasion, write to the US government and remind them that they still owed his family compensation for the financial loss suffered when they freed the family slaves! This went on for some years in the early part of the 20th Century. His photographs are known world-wide and in that regard he was a very talented individual.

codge · 08-04-2004, 04:44 PM

Hi Folks---A really super forum,very informative and friendly,a plus side of the internet and its reach.My neighbor sold me a Luger last week,he did'nt know what it was,said his Brother in laws grandfather brought it back from WWII. He died last month and they were disposing of his things.If any of y'all would help me id it and get a handle on the the value I would be very appreciative.I'll try to give you a good discription without pictures,but if necessary,I will arrange for them.I read your questions and replies to Mark R and I can see that you all KNOW your stuff.---1917 on top,directly behind 1917 is a small stamp-93,behind that-DMW and 93, then to the rear sight,which is an adjustable target sight mounted on the rear toggle with the word MICRO.Now to the left side--stamped in the barrel at the rear by the threads is 9MM Barrel by SS&D,moving back along the left side 6942,under that on the latch is 42,then back 1 inch to the sheet metal cover,42.now back 1 inch to the angled flat bar which moves up and down when the safety is moved, 42. under the safety,GESICHERT. now to the right side,four stamps just behind the barrel thread,from front to back--a standing eagle,--a S with a crown,---a S with a crown,-- a (looks like a CJ with a crown) now to the rear in the rough machined area,a block stamp with a 3 in it,--a block stamp(double border)can't read the number. Now to the bottom--just in front of the trigger guard 6342 with a C under. The Mag# is 3322,(made of wood). The barrel is 11&1/2 inches long with a fixed sight at front. The weapon is in very good cond. considering the florida climate conditions. It has a holster,brown leather,large flap.one strap to hold the gun in,two straps to hold the flap down. Snap buttons front and back,looks like some kind of shoulder rig. (I don't have the upper part. Hope this gives you all some clues. Best to you all. Codge.

Edward Tinker · 08-04-2004, 10:27 PM

Codge, can you start a new thread, so it highlights your Luger?

You can "copy and paste" and make a New Posting.

Thanks,

Ed

codge · 08-06-2004, 02:56 PM

Edward,Thank you for your reply.To be honest,No Sir,I can't. May I ask for a bit of your generousity and ask you to do that,or ask John D to make the change.If all else fails I can retype it and click on "new topic". Best to you---codge

Edward Tinker · 08-06-2004, 03:24 PM

codge, it is easier than it sounds, but if you click on new topic and leave it blank, then i will fill your info out for you!! (in that way, it goes in your name)

and an honest reply always goes a long way with me!

eduardo

04-29-2004, 12:54 PM	#24
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,852 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Mark, You need some more powerful ammo. With the last round in the chamber fired , does the holdopen activate and keep the toggle back? I have broken many parts on Lugers. For years I thought this would not be a problem but found it is likely to happen at any time. Grips cracking, extractors breaking etc. I like to shoot my weapons but there are some I will not shoot including my 1916 marked Artillery, all matching including magazine. Too expensive to break a part and I have another shooter Artillery anyway. Good Luck! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-04-2004, 10:27 PM	#27
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Codge, can you start a new thread, so it highlights your Luger? You can "copy and paste" and make a New Posting. Thanks, Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-06-2004, 03:24 PM	#29
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	codge, it is easier than it sounds, but if you click on new topic and leave it blank, then i will fill your info out for you!! (in that way, it goes in your name) and an honest reply always goes a long way with me! eduardo __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-28-2004, 09:55 PM	#21
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Tac, Your ancestors also looted my family's church and home in 1814. But what the hell, we kicked your asses back across the Atlantic and are glad to have you as allies now.

04-29-2004, 12:57 AM	#22
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Mark, Belated "Welcome to the Luger Forum". Thanks for posting your Artillery luger ! It looks like your 1917 has both the fine-tune (adjustable) front and rear sights... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

04-29-2004, 01:46 AM	#23
MarkR User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you Pete. Yes it does. Anyone care to advise me on whether I should use this pistol or encase it in a display cabinet. Would seem such a pity not to use it as it's still in beautiful condition and sure to turn heads at the shooting range. I believe this could be a touchy subject as I have come across posts where references have been made about heated discussions regarding this. Anyone care to inform me what the verdict is ? :-) If it can still be used as a shooter what should I do regarding the jamming problem ? As I mentioned before the spent cartridge doesn't clear quickly enough and when it jams it has the live round half way up into the chamber and the spent round jammed between the breech block and the chamber.

04-29-2004, 01:25 PM	#25
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,670 Thanks: 769 Thanked 1,614 Times in 525 Posts	Dear Mr. Tac, I yield to your superior story-telling talents. I am impressed by your knowledge of our patriots. I'm reminded of a gentleman who was for many years a photographer for the "Baltimore Sun" newspaper, a well respected publication. His name was A. Aubrey Bodine and he was somewhat peculiar in certain respects. He would, on occasion, write to the US government and remind them that they still owed his family compensation for the financial loss suffered when they freed the family slaves! This went on for some years in the early part of the 20th Century. His photographs are known world-wide and in that regard he was a very talented individual.

08-04-2004, 04:44 PM	#26
codge New User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: florida Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Folks---A really super forum,very informative and friendly,a plus side of the internet and its reach.My neighbor sold me a Luger last week,he did'nt know what it was,said his Brother in laws grandfather brought it back from WWII. He died last month and they were disposing of his things.If any of y'all would help me id it and get a handle on the the value I would be very appreciative.I'll try to give you a good discription without pictures,but if necessary,I will arrange for them.I read your questions and replies to Mark R and I can see that you all KNOW your stuff.---1917 on top,directly behind 1917 is a small stamp-93,behind that-DMW and 93, then to the rear sight,which is an adjustable target sight mounted on the rear toggle with the word MICRO.Now to the left side--stamped in the barrel at the rear by the threads is 9MM Barrel by SS&D,moving back along the left side 6942,under that on the latch is 42,then back 1 inch to the sheet metal cover,42.now back 1 inch to the angled flat bar which moves up and down when the safety is moved, 42. under the safety,GESICHERT. now to the right side,four stamps just behind the barrel thread,from front to back--a standing eagle,--a S with a crown,---a S with a crown,-- a (looks like a CJ with a crown) now to the rear in the rough machined area,a block stamp with a 3 in it,--a block stamp(double border)can't read the number. Now to the bottom--just in front of the trigger guard 6342 with a C under. The Mag# is 3322,(made of wood). The barrel is 11&1/2 inches long with a fixed sight at front. The weapon is in very good cond. considering the florida climate conditions. It has a holster,brown leather,large flap.one strap to hold the gun in,two straps to hold the flap down. Snap buttons front and back,looks like some kind of shoulder rig. (I don't have the upper part. Hope this gives you all some clues. Best to you all. Codge.

08-06-2004, 02:56 PM	#28
codge New User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: florida Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Edward,Thank you for your reply.To be honest,No Sir,I can't. May I ask for a bit of your generousity and ask you to do that,or ask John D to make the change.If all else fails I can retype it and click on "new topic". Best to you---codge