Are All Lugers The Same!

cirelaw · 11-08-2017, 09:53 PM

I own a 1908 Commercial luger and a 1908 military issue and there not the same, Why? Were there any mechanical differences or finish issues. With a new military contracts for hundred of thousands, did the standard change? Big difference even with your eyes closed! Even there is a real difference in holster quality! I'll post the differences tomorrow!

DonVoigt · 11-09-2017, 05:54 AM

Well,
all lugers are different, they have different numbers and markings on them!

We ight understand your question/statement when you post what you think may be the "difference".

mrerick · 11-09-2017, 08:48 AM

The answers to this question are both long and deep.

There are good reasons for every design variation in the Luger pistol. Some were based in preferences, some in necessity, and some in optional choices for Luger customers.

The Borchardt and Luger Automatic Pistols (the Gortz andf Sturgess masterwork) explains many of them.

While it's a great reference, many of the background discussions make great reading.

cirelaw · 11-09-2017, 10:34 AM

Here are both military and commercial versions~ The commercial is on top!

Lugerdoc · 11-09-2017, 12:00 PM

IMHO, The term P08 indicates a military accepted luger with a 9mm x 100mm (4") long barrel. There are other calibers, barrel lengths & markings among the over 350 variations of lugers that are not P08s. For beginners, I recommend Kenyon's "Lugers at Random" to become framiliar with the commonly used terms for most variations. TH

cirelaw · 11-09-2017, 12:49 PM

My second after Datig~He sent me this after my first luger!

cirelaw · 11-09-2017, 02:31 PM

Please Let Me Address a Second look! Being half German/Poilish my First was the 1906 Frenchy. It broke my luger cherry. I held it even stareing at the many dents scratch, damage of which bestoyed beauty.That one 1906 Frenchy is my spiritual headlight!! I hold or think of dents and ware happen while holding this luger that may of maybe the original owners' last gasp! She is very conforting!! Every dent had a reason, event or result!! A lugers' diary! I thank God ask Him to bless us all or friends, family and every American~ WE STAND PROUD!!!

11-08-2017, 09:53 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Are All Lugers The Same! I own a 1908 Commercial luger and a 1908 military issue and there not the same, Why? Were there any mechanical differences or finish issues. With a new military contracts for hundred of thousands, did the standard change? Big difference even with your eyes closed! Even there is a real difference in holster quality! I'll post the differences tomorrow!

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DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	Well, all lugers are different, they have different numbers and markings on them! We ight understand your question/statement when you post what you think may be the "difference". __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

11-09-2017, 08:48 AM	#3
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	The answers to this question are both long and deep. There are good reasons for every design variation in the Luger pistol. Some were based in preferences, some in necessity, and some in optional choices for Luger customers. The Borchardt and Luger Automatic Pistols (the Gortz andf Sturgess masterwork) explains many of them. While it's a great reference, many of the background discussions make great reading. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-09-2017, 10:34 AM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Here are both military and commercial versions~ The commercial is on top! Attached Thumbnails

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Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	IMHO, The term P08 indicates a military accepted luger with a 9mm x 100mm (4") long barrel. There are other calibers, barrel lengths & markings among the over 350 variations of lugers that are not P08s. For beginners, I recommend Kenyon's "Lugers at Random" to become framiliar with the commonly used terms for most variations. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank You My second after Datig~He sent me this after my first luger! Attached Thumbnails

11-09-2017, 02:31 PM	#7
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Please Let Me Address a Second look! Being half German/Poilish my First was the 1906 Frenchy. It broke my luger cherry. I held it even stareing at the many dents scratch, damage of which bestoyed beauty.That one 1906 Frenchy is my spiritual headlight!! I hold or think of dents and ware happen while holding this luger that may of maybe the original owners' last gasp! She is very conforting!! Every dent had a reason, event or result!! A lugers' diary! I thank God ask Him to bless us all or friends, family and every American~ WE STAND PROUD!!!