Did Interarms ever import...

dfm · 06-25-2010, 11:30 AM

a Mauser Parabellum P-08 with a 6" non-Swiss type barrel - in .30 Luger?

Vlim · 06-25-2010, 12:38 PM

Good question with no readily available answer.

Mauser did change the barrel design after 1972, so there is a good chance that guns with the P08 style front sight made it to the USA. The problem is that the .30 luger version was not a huge seller, neither in the US nor in Europe, so Mauser had a lot of guns in storage which lasted for quite a while.

tomaustin · 06-25-2010, 11:35 PM

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Lugerdoc · 06-26-2010, 07:07 AM

Interarms did market both the 9 and 7.65mm 6" barrel in both the PO8 and the Swiss type frame. Probably more to the point of your question, ALL of the postwar Mauser Parabellums have a "Long" reciever, so that the barrels have a 1/8" longer threaded area than the standard PO8, so that these barrels are not interchangable. TH

lfid · 06-26-2010, 12:55 PM

dfm - can you provide more detail for your definition of a non-swiss MP interarms import type barrel is - ie the threaded area is longer / taper different / front sight different / markings / the frame has straight front strap at the magazine insert area or ?

I have seen a few 30 cal MP AE and interarms logo marked with same external style barrel and front sight like the 9mm P08 style frame

dfm · 06-27-2010, 04:02 PM

lfid,

You hit the nail on the head with your second paragraph. That's exactly what I meant in my post.

dfm

lfid · 06-28-2010, 04:57 AM

dfm - looked back thru my photo collection of MP for sale - all the 30 cal have the swiss type front sight

so correction - apparently I have not seen 9mm contour barrel on an MP P08 type frame

sorry !!! for the misinformation

Bill

zinfull · 06-28-2010, 02:57 PM

My 6" 30 cal barrel also has the swiss sight but my 4" have the P08 sights.

jerry

Lugerdoc · 07-22-2010, 09:10 AM

DFM et al, I recently acquired a few new unblued Mauser factory Parabellum 7.65x100mm FAT BARRELS, of the same type used on the M1902 AE & Cartridge Counter Commeratives in 9mmP. These are marked "30 luger" on top and will fit on any MP, but were never an issue item on any of their lugers, so here's your chance to make something unique (a FAT barrel 06/29 Swiss, etc). New barrel only @$125 + $10 S&H or high polished blued and installed on your MP @$250 + $25 insured return S&H. TH

Vlim · 07-22-2010, 12:44 PM

Tom,

These were probably meant for commemoratives that were exported to countries where the
9x19 para was prohibited as it was considered to be a 'military cartridge'.

Nice find. These are rare indeed.

suum cuique · 07-22-2010, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim

Tom,

These were probably meant for commemoratives that were exported to countries where the
9x19 para was prohibited as it was considered to be a 'military cartridge'.

Nice find. These are rare indeed.

Italy, Malta, Mexico? Several countries do not allow 9mm Pistols for private use

A.Mifsin · 07-22-2010, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suum cuique

Italy, Malta, Mexico? Several countries do not allow 9mm Pistols for private use

I live in Malta and we allowed to shoot 9x19mm, it is the most popular caliber in Malta.

Alf.

suum cuique · 07-22-2010, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.Mifsin

I live in Malta and we allowed to shoot 9x19mm, it is the most popular caliber in Malta.

Alf.

How about 45 ACP? Were 9x19 banned maybe a few yaers ago? Maybe It was Cyprus.

I've read an article in a gun magazine a few years ago about the "military calibre" ban in some countries, maybe in the late 80s or early 90s, I can't remember

Vlim · 07-22-2010, 03:40 PM

I know we had sports shooters at the club who lived in Belgium (just a few miles away) and had to ask for dispensation by the governor for the use of military calibres like 9x19 and .45 acp.

Italy was certainly one of the countries that Mauser took into account. It also had to do with a close working relationship with Renato Gamba over there.

A.Mifsin · 07-23-2010, 02:21 AM

Fortunately, we do not have any calibre restrictions; even the 45acp is widely used by those who like to hear a big bang when hitting the falling plates.

Occasionally we organize shooting trips to Italy which as you said the 9x19mm is not allowed because it is a Military round, so we shoot mostly with 45 and 357. Some prefer to shoot their rifles, since we do not have a rifle Shooting Range yet, but we are working on it.
Alf.

06-25-2010, 11:30 AM	#1
dfm User Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 20 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Did Interarms ever import... a Mauser Parabellum P-08 with a 6" non-Swiss type barrel - in .30 Luger?

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tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	there were only 5070 .30 cal made. ..

06-26-2010, 07:07 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Interarms did market both the 9 and 7.65mm 6" barrel in both the PO8 and the Swiss type frame. Probably more to the point of your question, ALL of the postwar Mauser Parabellums have a "Long" reciever, so that the barrels have a 1/8" longer threaded area than the standard PO8, so that these barrels are not interchangable. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

07-22-2010, 09:10 AM	#9
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	DFM et al, I recently acquired a few new unblued Mauser factory Parabellum 7.65x100mm FAT BARRELS, of the same type used on the M1902 AE & Cartridge Counter Commeratives in 9mmP. These are marked "30 luger" on top and will fit on any MP, but were never an issue item on any of their lugers, so here's your chance to make something unique (a FAT barrel 06/29 Swiss, etc). New barrel only @$125 + $10 S&H or high polished blued and installed on your MP @$250 + $25 insured return S&H. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

07-23-2010, 02:21 AM	#15
A.Mifsin User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 570 Thanks: 74 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Fortunately, we do not have any calibre restrictions; even the 45acp is widely used by those who like to hear a big bang when hitting the falling plates. Occasionally we organize shooting trips to Italy which as you said the 9x19mm is not allowed because it is a Military round, so we shoot mostly with 45 and 357. Some prefer to shoot their rifles, since we do not have a rifle Shooting Range yet, but we are working on it. Alf. __________________ I prefer a Luger

06-25-2010, 12:38 PM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Good question with no readily available answer. Mauser did change the barrel design after 1972, so there is a good chance that guns with the P08 style front sight made it to the USA. The problem is that the .30 luger version was not a huge seller, neither in the US nor in Europe, so Mauser had a lot of guns in storage which lasted for quite a while.

06-26-2010, 12:55 PM	#5
lfid Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS USA Posts: 453 Thanks: 573 Thanked 96 Times in 53 Posts	dfm - can you provide more detail for your definition of a non-swiss MP interarms import type barrel is - ie the threaded area is longer / taper different / front sight different / markings / the frame has straight front strap at the magazine insert area or ? I have seen a few 30 cal MP AE and interarms logo marked with same external style barrel and front sight like the 9mm P08 style frame

06-27-2010, 04:02 PM	#6
dfm User Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 20 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	lfid, You hit the nail on the head with your second paragraph. That's exactly what I meant in my post. dfm

06-28-2010, 04:57 AM	#7
lfid Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS USA Posts: 453 Thanks: 573 Thanked 96 Times in 53 Posts	dfm - looked back thru my photo collection of MP for sale - all the 30 cal have the swiss type front sight so correction - apparently I have not seen 9mm contour barrel on an MP P08 type frame sorry !!! for the misinformation Bill

06-28-2010, 02:57 PM	#8
zinfull Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sonoma County CA Posts: 240 Thanks: 4 Thanked 32 Times in 15 Posts	My 6" 30 cal barrel also has the swiss sight but my 4" have the P08 sights. jerry

07-22-2010, 12:44 PM	#10
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Tom, These were probably meant for commemoratives that were exported to countries where the 9x19 para was prohibited as it was considered to be a 'military cartridge'. Nice find. These are rare indeed.

07-22-2010, 03:40 PM	#14
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	I know we had sports shooters at the club who lived in Belgium (just a few miles away) and had to ask for dispensation by the governor for the use of military calibres like 9x19 and .45 acp. Italy was certainly one of the countries that Mauser took into account. It also had to do with a close working relationship with Renato Gamba over there.