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Brian · 09-02-2001, 12:43 AM

just wondering if anyone can help, what is the appropriate, or most pistol friendly bullet grain weight for p-08's and p-38's?

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BILL · 09-02-2001, 01:15 AM

My experience with 9mm 124grain jacketed seems to be pretty consistant.

09-02-2001, 10:31 PM

My Lugars, P38's, and my P35 work with just about any ball ammo. The Lugar doesn't like to get too dirty, however. (it's an almost unfired "black widow". I know what some of you are going to say, but what the hell, guns are meant to be fired)

09-02-2001, 11:00 PM

9mm 124 grain will give you reliable feed for the simple fact that the 9mm ammo used by germany and which the gun spring tensions were designed were for the recoil of a 124 grian bullet

Chip · 09-03-2001, 01:12 AM

I shoot my cast lead bullets in my Luger. They weigh out to roughly 124 grain. Sure saves wear and tear on an 80 year old barrel.

09-03-2001, 03:27 PM

you must surely pull out a ton of lead fouling after each run at the range!

Chip · 09-03-2001, 05:12 PM

My cast bullets are made with a 50/50 mix of wheelweights and linotype, and they have never leaded any barrel I have including shooting my 44 magnum with really hot loads. Of course I use gas checks on magnum and rifle bullets. Of course I may be doing something wrong, afterall I'm still pretty new at reloading, only been doing it for 45 years now.

Johnny Peppers · 09-03-2001, 09:28 PM

Use the Keith 429421 in your .44 Magnum and you won't have to fool with the gas checks. My pre Model 29 will shoot them with up to 20grs. of 2400 with no leading, but I no longer find this fun to shoot. Around 11grs. of 2400 is more fun.

09-03-2001, 10:51 PM

Dont worry chip there's always room for improvement.

Thor · 09-04-2001, 12:10 AM

I have had little trouble shooting wheel weight alloy if I dont push the bullets over 1000 fps, this can be a little problematical with a Luger as you may not have enough recoil impetus to operate the action unless you go to a heavy bullet. This has always been a good rule of thumb that has worked well. I dont shoot lead in my Lugers, just jacketed bullets. With the rough bores from corrosive ammunition lead bullets would fill up the pits and be a problem I dont need. If the barrel is very very smooth and you either shoot a very hard alloy or use whell weight alloy and keep the velocities down a bit, you might get a way with it, perhaps a lighter recoil spring, but that might cause other problems with the action. Make my Luger bullets jacketed please. If lead ammo was a cheap alternative, why didnt the Germans use this option, at least for practice? ~Thor~

Thor · 09-04-2001, 01:19 AM

Absolutely and the additional of Tin into your mix will help!

09-02-2001, 12:43 AM	#1
Brian New User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Minn Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ammo help just wondering if anyone can help, what is the appropriate, or most pistol friendly bullet grain weight for p-08's and p-38's? my g43 homepage http://www.gewehr43.com/g43sniper.jpg

09-02-2001, 01:15 AM	#2
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ammo help My experience with 9mm 124grain jacketed seems to be pretty consistant.

09-02-2001, 10:31 PM	#3
Polizei Guest Posts: n/a	Re: ammo help My Lugars, P38's, and my P35 work with just about any ball ammo. The Lugar doesn't like to get too dirty, however. (it's an almost unfired "black widow". I know what some of you are going to say, but what the hell, guns are meant to be fired)

09-02-2001, 11:00 PM	#4
Rob Regers Guest Posts: n/a	Re: ammo help 9mm 124 grain will give you reliable feed for the simple fact that the 9mm ammo used by germany and which the gun spring tensions were designed were for the recoil of a 124 grian bullet

09-03-2001, 01:12 AM	#5
Chip User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ammo help I shoot my cast lead bullets in my Luger. They weigh out to roughly 124 grain. Sure saves wear and tear on an 80 year old barrel.

09-03-2001, 03:27 PM	#6
Rob Regers Guest Posts: n/a	Re: ammo help you must surely pull out a ton of lead fouling after each run at the range!

09-03-2001, 05:12 PM	#7
Chip User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ammo help My cast bullets are made with a 50/50 mix of wheelweights and linotype, and they have never leaded any barrel I have including shooting my 44 magnum with really hot loads. Of course I use gas checks on magnum and rifle bullets. Of course I may be doing something wrong, afterall I'm still pretty new at reloading, only been doing it for 45 years now.

09-03-2001, 09:28 PM	#8
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: ammo help Use the Keith 429421 in your .44 Magnum and you won't have to fool with the gas checks. My pre Model 29 will shoot them with up to 20grs. of 2400 with no leading, but I no longer find this fun to shoot. Around 11grs. of 2400 is more fun.

09-03-2001, 10:51 PM	#9
Rob Regers Guest Posts: n/a	Re: ammo help for chip Dont worry chip there's always room for improvement.

09-04-2001, 12:10 AM	#10
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: ammo help I have had little trouble shooting wheel weight alloy if I dont push the bullets over 1000 fps, this can be a little problematical with a Luger as you may not have enough recoil impetus to operate the action unless you go to a heavy bullet. This has always been a good rule of thumb that has worked well. I dont shoot lead in my Lugers, just jacketed bullets. With the rough bores from corrosive ammunition lead bullets would fill up the pits and be a problem I dont need. If the barrel is very very smooth and you either shoot a very hard alloy or use whell weight alloy and keep the velocities down a bit, you might get a way with it, perhaps a lighter recoil spring, but that might cause other problems with the action. Make my Luger bullets jacketed please. If lead ammo was a cheap alternative, why didnt the Germans use this option, at least for practice? ~Thor~

09-04-2001, 01:19 AM	#11
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: ammo help Absolutely and the additional of Tin into your mix will help!