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Unread 10-05-2021, 08:27 PM   #1
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Default 1900 AE with Swiss Cross on Barrel

Came across this 1900 AE and noticed it had the Swiss Cross proof on the barrel. Went to the Commercial Database Commentary and read the section on the serial range. Pleased to report a lower number for the database that is slightly earlier than the starting date. Pics attached. Thanks Dwight for the excellent coverage on the early Parabellum.

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Does it have a grip safety, too ?
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Yes, standard production 1900 with the grip safety.

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Interesting 1900, beautiful condition and your photographs are amazing in clarity!
Thanks for posting!

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Can someone point me to the commercial database commentary? and the significance of the Swiss cross on the barrel is?
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i have #8940 with the swiss cross.
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Is it just me or does the barrel serial number look engraved?
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The number looks funny, perhaps the photo.
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the barrel fonts and the frame fonts seem different to me too aldo ... especially at the top of the #1's

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Might be the angle on the barrel but needs more checking to me.
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The barrel numbers being stamped on the inside of a curved surface may play a part in the appearance. The stamps themselves being flat.
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The barrel numbers being stamped on the inside of a curved surface may play a part in the appearance. The stamps themselves being flat.
True, but the inside of the number 8 is not round and the inside of the numbers look choppy. Like an engraving chisel or pen?

Compare to one of my 1900 AE's.

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I wish I knew more about the factory assembly process which might explain the difference in the barrel/frame stamping.

We know this barrel and frame belong together by the witness mark ... its a beautiful AE gunnertwo... I hope you own it.
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Doug, I'm sorry to correct you, but what you have pictured is as New Model pistol.


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the barrel fonts and the frame fonts seem different to me too aldo ... especially at the top of the #1's

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Might be the angle on the barrel but needs more checking to me.

I don't have time to do a full photo comparison right now, but on early Old Model pistols the barrel numeral stamps are different from the frame numeral stamps, and the barrel stamp of sn 8911 is broadly consistent with contemporary examples.


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Doug, I'm sorry to correct you, but what you have pictured is as New Model pistol.


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You are correct, it is my 1906 AE. Got the pics mixed up when I was posting in the Germany AE halo thread.

Here is a 1900 AE.
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