Chrome "1936" HK

krendo · 05-27-2012, 02:55 PM

I recently acquired a "1936" HK,, it looks like every HK Ive found online, The only catch is mine is chrome. It was passed down from my grandfather who was in WWII. I was trying to look it up and have not been able find another like this one. Was wondering if anyone had some information about it? I would guess its rare?

Edward Tinker · 05-27-2012, 03:05 PM

It is 'rare' in the sense that it is Krieghoff, it is not rare that it has been chromed, this ruins all the collector value.

ed

krendo · 05-27-2012, 03:17 PM

All the gun serials and emblems seem so clear and stamped. When you chrome something from my understanding you loose a lot of the detail. I do appreciate your your expertise. I didn't know what to think

alanint · 05-27-2012, 03:54 PM

Think that Ed is absolutely correct. NO Luger EVER left the factory chrome or nickel plated. No matter how much the dealer trying to sell it to you or your neighborhood expert insists that it was made for the Navy and designed to resist rust, or it was issued to Hitler's Personal Honor Guard, etc. These were plated by GI right after the war because it was in fashion and people had no idea that the pistols would one day be rare and sought after.
Still, Chrome Lugers are developing a following and an HK chromey would certainly be a conversation piece.

zinfull · 05-27-2012, 04:27 PM

It would get the talk out of Luger collectors. Be sure to have a box of tissue handy.

jerry

George Anderson · 05-27-2012, 04:42 PM

Kenny, all may not be lost. Since it is a Krieghoff if will have better than average value from a starting point. Plating can be professionally removed and the proper finish can be professionally restored. That done it will still not have the same value as an original but...
Since a family member brought it home you might find the veteran's paperwork permitting him to bring it home. This slip of paper would increase the value. Also if the pistol has an original matching serial numbered magazine it will enhance the value.

Edward Tinker · 05-27-2012, 06:51 PM

and in addition to what Geo said above, do you know any story of how it was brought back? I collect bring back story's and have three volumns so far, working on vol IV

Ed

Sammler · 05-27-2012, 07:38 PM

The fact that a gun was brought back by a veteran does not mean that it is a factory original piece. Yes, there was a post war "cottage industry" in Germany where skilled gunsmiths and metal workers catered to G.I.`s. Most of the plated Luger and P. 38 pistols were done in the immediate postwar era and brought back by veterans. The G.I. had a shiny pistol and the German gunsmith had some U.S. dollars (frowned upon) or some barter goods such as a carton of cigarettes. Many years ago, a longtime MAUSER employee wrote me of a gunsmith he knew who made dies to order and marked guns (mostly K98k`s and a few P. 38`s) with SS markings: runes, skull/bones, etc. for the occupation troops. He said the Americans were "crazy for SS stuff." A veteran bring back from W II--yes. Original--no. As always, BE CAREFUL.

CAP Black · 05-28-2012, 06:38 PM

From what comments I've read in this forum, if the GI who brought it back had it chromed, it makes a difference to collectors.

05-27-2012, 02:55 PM	#1
krendo New User Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Chrome "1936" HK I recently acquired a "1936" HK,, it looks like every HK Ive found online, The only catch is mine is chrome. It was passed down from my grandfather who was in WWII. I was trying to look it up and have not been able find another like this one. Was wondering if anyone had some information about it? I would guess its rare?

05-27-2012, 03:05 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	It is 'rare' in the sense that it is Krieghoff, it is not rare that it has been chromed, this ruins *all* the collector value. ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-27-2012, 03:17 PM	#3
krendo New User Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The thing is All the gun serials and emblems seem so clear and stamped. When you chrome something from my understanding you loose a lot of the detail. I do appreciate your your expertise. I didn't know what to think

05-27-2012, 06:51 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	and in addition to what Geo said above, do you know any story of how it was brought back? I collect bring back story's and have three volumns so far, working on vol IV Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-27-2012, 07:38 PM	#8
Sammler User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	"Bring back" vs. original The fact that a gun was brought back by a veteran does not mean that it is a factory original piece. Yes, there was a post war "cottage industry" in Germany where skilled gunsmiths and metal workers catered to G.I.`s. Most of the plated Luger and P. 38 pistols were done in the immediate postwar era and brought back by veterans. The G.I. had a shiny pistol and the German gunsmith had some U.S. dollars (frowned upon) or some barter goods such as a carton of cigarettes. Many years ago, a longtime MAUSER employee wrote me of a gunsmith he knew who made dies to order and marked guns (mostly K98k`s and a few P. 38`s) with SS markings: runes, skull/bones, etc. for the occupation troops. He said the Americans were "crazy for SS stuff." A veteran bring back from W II--yes. Original--no. As always, BE CAREFUL.

05-27-2012, 03:54 PM	#4
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Think that Ed is absolutely correct. NO Luger EVER left the factory chrome or nickel plated. No matter how much the dealer trying to sell it to you or your neighborhood expert insists that it was made for the Navy and designed to resist rust, or it was issued to Hitler's Personal Honor Guard, etc. These were plated by GI right after the war because it was in fashion and people had no idea that the pistols would one day be rare and sought after. Still, Chrome Lugers are developing a following and an HK chromey would certainly be a conversation piece.

05-27-2012, 04:27 PM	#5
zinfull Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sonoma County CA Posts: 243 Thanks: 5 Thanked 33 Times in 16 Posts	It would get the talk out of Luger collectors. Be sure to have a box of tissue handy. jerry

05-27-2012, 04:42 PM	#6
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	Kenny, all may not be lost. Since it is a Krieghoff if will have better than average value from a starting point. Plating can be professionally removed and the proper finish can be professionally restored. That done it will still not have the same value as an original but... Since a family member brought it home you might find the veteran's paperwork permitting him to bring it home. This slip of paper would increase the value. Also if the pistol has an original matching serial numbered magazine it will enhance the value.

05-28-2012, 06:38 PM	#9
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	It seems to make a difference as to who had it chromed. From what comments I've read in this forum, if the GI who brought it back had it chromed, it makes a difference to collectors.