Mauser Parabellum book

Steve Richards · 02-06-2003, 03:28 PM

I just got my copy of The Mauser Parabellum by Francis C Allan today. It was a bit pricey but appears to be a very good book about the guns produced by Mauser in the 1970's. I can't wait to get home and check my gun against the information in the book.
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Edward Tinker · 02-06-2003, 03:42 PM

I bought his book also, thought it was a good one for those Mausers. And I don't have one of them, just thought it smart to buy it while it was available!

Steve Richards · 02-06-2003, 09:13 PM

I checked my gun and it is #336 of the .30cal. in the series 3 which was the primary production run. Nothing special but a low number and most importanly, it is MINE. It is listed as a Swiss 29/70 and has the strawed parts and knurled parts. What is the highest number of the Swiss style that anyone has?

Jeff in Cincinnati · 02-12-2003, 06:31 AM

I this book available generally or is it one that must be found on an auction, etc.? Some years ago I sold, with much regret, a Swiss pattern 9mm I bought in the late 70's. I now have an unfired four inch 7.65 P08, SN RG9** that I wish I knew more about. It will not remain unfired, but will be well taken care of in the event that one of my boys wants it when I am through with it.

Edward Tinker · 02-12-2003, 06:51 AM

I bought mine direct from Mr. Allan, he had it reprinted, although there are previous copies on sale in places I am sure.

I looked, but I couldn't find his e-mail addess.

I am sure someone else has it or physical address? Steve?

unspellable · 02-12-2003, 08:42 AM

Jeff,

Your 7.65 was intended for the Italian market as indicated by the RG9** serial number. The entire run was not shipped to Italy, the surplus came to the US by way of Interarms.

Jeff in Cincinnati · 02-12-2003, 10:07 AM

I appreciate the interesting information that the P08 I have was made for sale in Italy. Nothing in the box or papers clued me to this. It is marked as a 7.65 Luger, and unfired cases seem to chamber properly. I haven't fired it or chambered live rounds. I am ignorant as to the mention of recent posts regarding the preoper caliber of the gun, but now I'll have too see what I can find. Do I have a problem I am unaware of?

John Sabato · 02-12-2003, 11:12 AM

No problem Jeff...A new forum member from Italy (Navystv) recently posted that the possession of 9mm parabellum handguns is/was prohibited in that country because it is a military issue caliber. This is why the commercial 1970's vintage Mauser Lugers were made in .30 (7.65mm) parabellum for the Italian market.

mauro · 02-12-2003, 12:10 PM

Hello friends,
RG means Renato Gamba a very important Italian gun delear. In the 1970 it was the official importer of all Mauser gun. If I remember correctly he produced also Mauser hsc under Mauser authorisation in Italy.
I know his have a very important collection.
I have to visit him in Gardone Val Trompia, the same city in which there is the Beretta Museum.
A good city to spend a week end.
Ciao from the Italian Forum representative.

unspellable · 02-12-2003, 02:10 PM

Jeff,

Check your profile for a private message.

Lugerdoc · 02-13-2003, 01:43 AM

I still have several new copies of Allen's "The Mauser Parabellum" available @$25 post paid in US. Tom H.

Jeff in Cincinnati · 02-13-2003, 05:08 AM

Lugerdoc, you have mail.

Unspellable, check your profile for a reply.

Thanks all very much for the information!

John Sabato · 02-13-2003, 07:35 AM

Mauro,

You are no longer the sole Italian representative to the Lugerforum...but you are still the most active one

Please join us in welcoming our newest member from Italy...his name is Marzio, (his user ID is Navystv) and he lives on the island of Sardinia... I am sure he would welcome a private message from you.

Steve Richards · 02-14-2003, 09:59 AM

If anyone wants a copy of this book, buy it from Lugerdoc. His price is much lower than what I paid. <img border="0" alt="[bigbye]" title="" src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" />

02-06-2003, 03:28 PM	#1
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mauser Parabellum book I just got my copy of The Mauser Parabellum by Francis C Allan today. It was a bit pricey but appears to be a very good book about the guns produced by Mauser in the 1970's. I can't wait to get home and check my gun against the information in the book. <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" />

02-06-2003, 03:42 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	I bought his book also, thought it was a good one for those Mausers. And I don't have one of them, just thought it smart to buy it while it was available! __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-12-2003, 06:51 AM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	I bought mine direct from Mr. Allan, he had it reprinted, although there are previous copies on sale in places I am sure. I looked, but I couldn't find his e-mail addess. I am sure someone else has it or physical address? Steve? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-12-2003, 11:12 AM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	No problem Jeff...A new forum member from Italy (Navystv) recently posted that the possession of 9mm parabellum handguns is/was prohibited in that country because it is a military issue caliber. This is why the commercial 1970's vintage Mauser Lugers were made in .30 (7.65mm) parabellum for the Italian market. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-12-2003, 12:10 PM	#9
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Hello friends, RG means Renato Gamba a very important Italian gun delear. In the 1970 it was the official importer of all Mauser gun. If I remember correctly he produced also Mauser hsc under Mauser authorisation in Italy. I know his have a very important collection. I have to visit him in Gardone Val Trompia, the same city in which there is the Beretta Museum. A good city to spend a week end. Ciao from the Italian Forum representative. __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

02-06-2003, 09:13 PM	#3
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I checked my gun and it is #336 of the .30cal. in the series 3 which was the primary production run. Nothing special but a low number and most importanly, it is MINE. It is listed as a Swiss 29/70 and has the strawed parts and knurled parts. What is the highest number of the Swiss style that anyone has?

02-12-2003, 06:31 AM	#4
Jeff in Cincinnati User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I this book available generally or is it one that must be found on an auction, etc.? Some years ago I sold, with much regret, a Swiss pattern 9mm I bought in the late 70's. I now have an unfired four inch 7.65 P08, SN RG9** that I wish I knew more about. It will not remain unfired, but will be well taken care of in the event that one of my boys wants it when I am through with it.

02-12-2003, 08:42 AM	#6
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts	Jeff, Your 7.65 was intended for the Italian market as indicated by the RG9** serial number. The entire run was not shipped to Italy, the surplus came to the US by way of Interarms.

02-12-2003, 10:07 AM	#7
Jeff in Cincinnati User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I appreciate the interesting information that the P08 I have was made for sale in Italy. Nothing in the box or papers clued me to this. It is marked as a 7.65 Luger, and unfired cases seem to chamber properly. I haven't fired it or chambered live rounds. I am ignorant as to the mention of recent posts regarding the preoper caliber of the gun, but now I'll have too see what I can find. Do I have a problem I am unaware of?

02-12-2003, 02:10 PM	#10
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts	Jeff, Check your profile for a private message.

02-13-2003, 01:43 AM	#11
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	I still have several new copies of Allen's "The Mauser Parabellum" available @$25 post paid in US. Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-13-2003, 05:08 AM	#12
Jeff in Cincinnati User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lugerdoc, you have mail. Unspellable, check your profile for a reply. Thanks all very much for the information!

02-13-2003, 07:35 AM	#13
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Mauro, You are no longer the sole Italian representative to the Lugerforum...but you are still the most active one Please join us in welcoming our newest member from Italy...his name is Marzio, (his user ID is Navystv) and he lives on the island of Sardinia... I am sure he would welcome a private message from you. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-14-2003, 09:59 AM	#14
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If anyone wants a copy of this book, buy it from Lugerdoc. His price is much lower than what I paid. <img border="0" alt="[bigbye]" title="" src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" />