luger feeding problem

mccaslyn · 04-20-2017, 06:28 PM

Hello all, i took my new to me luger out for the first time today and had a consistent problem, every time i went to shoot on almost every round it would lock back and would not strip the cartridge some mags i made it though it seems that if i load less than 5 it will do it and it works good full but then when it starts to empty it will happen. unfortunately i only had one mag and i expect that this is the problem, I was just curious on your opinion

mrerick · 04-20-2017, 06:37 PM

Check and see if there is dirt in the hold-open well, or if there is damage to the spring. Since your pistol is made up from parts from multiple guns, there might be a problem requiring hand fitting of the hold open.

Marc

mccaslyn · 04-20-2017, 07:58 PM

I am learning a lot today about this gun lol i managed to take out the assembly the spring appears to be fine or at least looks similar to what the others i searched looked like. fiddled with it some and it pushes the same distance up (the bolt hold open) regardless if i bent it with more of an angle or not (bent it back to original)

the mag i have is slightly bent on the button attached to the follower which i think may be pushing it slightly higher than normal

lugerholsterrepair · 04-20-2017, 08:40 PM

the mag i have is slightly bent on the button attached to the follower which i think may be pushing it slightly higher than normal...most feeding problems stem from a defective magazine. At least a good shooter mag is a place to start eliminating variables. Might try a new MecGar.

mccaslyn · 04-20-2017, 09:17 PM

yeah just wanted to see before i bought one, have one on the way. hopefully this cures the problem

lugerholsterrepair · 04-20-2017, 10:10 PM

hopefully this cures the problem Yes..if it does or doesn't you will know more than you do now!

rhuff · 04-21-2017, 03:32 PM

If you find that the old mag is your problem, you might want to consider sending the mag to GT to have it "tuned" and made functional.

mccaslyn · 04-21-2017, 05:01 PM

How much would that run?

mrerick · 04-21-2017, 05:44 PM

Send G.T. a message on the forum.

Sky Zero · 04-21-2017, 05:47 PM

G.T. is the way to go. He's got a barrel and upper of mine right now.

DonVoigt · 04-21-2017, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccaslyn

How much would that run?

Unless it is a matching magazine it does not make much sense to spent $$ on it.

For about $35 you can have a new Mec-gar mag.

GT can answer the cost question, but you would have =/- $15 just in postage there and back.

mccaslyn · 04-21-2017, 08:36 PM

I have a mecgar on the way. Would the mag be worth anything? Its stainless and has aluminum bottom with i think 135 or 165 on bottom

Sky Zero · 04-21-2017, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccaslyn

I have a mecgar on the way. Would the mag be worth anything? Its stainless and has aluminum bottom with i think 135 or 165 on bottom

check the accessories board.

DonVoigt · 04-22-2017, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccaslyn

I have a mecgar on the way. Would the mag be worth anything? Its stainless and has aluminum bottom with i think 135 or 165 on bottom

Yes,
but it is not stainless, just chrome or bright, and would be worth something depending on the rest of the condition and number.

Take good pictures and show us.

mccaslyn · 04-24-2017, 10:54 AM

some pics of my original mag

mccaslyn · 04-26-2017, 02:47 PM

RANGE REPORT:

Okay, so I got the new mec gar magazine and it seemed to fit and function much better then the original but unfortunately im still having a problem with it intermittently holding the bolt open with ammo still in the magazine.

just for fun i took out the bolt hold open and it functioned properly

so im wondering what your opinion is, could it be the bolt hold open/ spring?

or could it be the actual magazine release/ spring?

lugerholsterrepair · 04-26-2017, 03:18 PM

OK, I am guessing it's your holdopen spring. That's the flat spring on the front of it. It is bent so that it pushes the bar too high,

mccaslyn · 04-26-2017, 03:34 PM

ok, i will get a replacement, do you have any suggestions on where i should get one? i see sarco has them and i see some on ebay from interarms

mccaslyn · 04-26-2017, 03:35 PM

also i wanted to say thanks to everyone, you have all been very helpfull

K.Wilhelm · 04-26-2017, 04:03 PM

Listen to my man, Jerry; he knows whereof he speaks. Had the same problem with one of my first Lugers and he made sure I got an original HO spring to fix the issue. Bill

04-20-2017, 06:28 PM	#1
mccaslyn User Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	luger feeding problem Hello all, i took my new to me luger out for the first time today and had a consistent problem, every time i went to shoot on almost every round it would lock back and would not strip the cartridge some mags i made it though it seems that if i load less than 5 it will do it and it works good full but then when it starts to empty it will happen. unfortunately i only had one mag and i expect that this is the problem, I was just curious on your opinion

04-20-2017, 06:37 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Check and see if there is dirt in the hold-open well, or if there is damage to the spring. Since your pistol is made up from parts from multiple guns, there might be a problem requiring hand fitting of the hold open. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

04-20-2017, 08:40 PM	#4
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,868 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	the mag i have is slightly bent on the button attached to the follower which i think may be pushing it slightly higher than normal...most feeding problems stem from a defective magazine. At least a good shooter mag is a place to start eliminating variables. Might try a new MecGar. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

04-20-2017, 10:10 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,868 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	hopefully this cures the problem Yes..if it does or doesn't you will know more than you do now! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

04-21-2017, 05:44 PM	#9
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Send G.T. a message on the forum. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

04-20-2017, 07:58 PM	#3
mccaslyn User Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	I am learning a lot today about this gun lol i managed to take out the assembly the spring appears to be fine or at least looks similar to what the others i searched looked like. fiddled with it some and it pushes the same distance up (the bolt hold open) regardless if i bent it with more of an angle or not (bent it back to original) the mag i have is slightly bent on the button attached to the follower which i think may be pushing it slightly higher than normal

04-20-2017, 09:17 PM	#5
mccaslyn User Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	yeah just wanted to see before i bought one, have one on the way. hopefully this cures the problem

04-21-2017, 03:32 PM	#7
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,274 Thanks: 2,695 Thanked 961 Times in 707 Posts	If you find that the old mag is your problem, you might want to consider sending the mag to GT to have it "tuned" and made functional.

04-21-2017, 05:01 PM	#8
mccaslyn User Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	How much would that run?

04-21-2017, 05:47 PM	#10
Sky Zero User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 308 Thanks: 134 Thanked 43 Times in 30 Posts	G.T. is the way to go. He's got a barrel and upper of mine right now.

04-21-2017, 08:36 PM	#12
mccaslyn User Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	I have a mecgar on the way. Would the mag be worth anything? Its stainless and has aluminum bottom with i think 135 or 165 on bottom

04-24-2017, 10:54 AM	#15
mccaslyn User Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	some pics of my original mag Attached Thumbnails

04-26-2017, 02:47 PM	#16
mccaslyn User Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	RANGE REPORT: Okay, so I got the new mec gar magazine and it seemed to fit and function much better then the original but unfortunately im still having a problem with it intermittently holding the bolt open with ammo still in the magazine. just for fun i took out the bolt hold open and it functioned properly so im wondering what your opinion is, could it be the bolt hold open/ spring? or could it be the actual magazine release/ spring?

04-26-2017, 03:18 PM	#17
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,868 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	OK, I am guessing it's your holdopen spring. That's the flat spring on the front of it. It is bent so that it pushes the bar too high, __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

04-26-2017, 03:34 PM	#18
mccaslyn User Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	ok, i will get a replacement, do you have any suggestions on where i should get one? i see sarco has them and i see some on ebay from interarms

04-26-2017, 03:35 PM	#19
mccaslyn User Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	also i wanted to say thanks to everyone, you have all been very helpfull

04-26-2017, 04:03 PM	#20
K.Wilhelm User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Central Colorado Posts: 215 Thanks: 45 Thanked 109 Times in 66 Posts	Listen to my man, Jerry; he knows whereof he speaks. Had the same problem with one of my first Lugers and he made sure I got an original HO spring to fix the issue. Bill __________________ NRA Endowment Life member Proud veteran of the Naval Security Group