.45 cal Test Savage...

Pete Ebbink · 01-04-2006, 06:28 PM

Sold by Old Town Station LTD recently for $ 11.5K...reportedly from the same 1907 US Trails where the .45 lugers competed...

Vlim · 01-04-2006, 07:59 PM

Pete,

It certainly must be, because as the known .45 lugers this one doesn't look like the photograph in the 1907 test report either

Dwight Gruber · 01-04-2006, 08:03 PM

Here's another for sale on Gunsamerica for $17.5k I'd sure like to have one...

--Dwight

c3006 · 01-05-2006, 07:13 AM

I have a pistol very much like this one in 380 ,it jams every other shot but is still kinda neat. clint

Rod WMG · 01-05-2006, 07:17 AM

Yep, I have one of the .32 ACP's of this basic design. I've always admired it and think the .45 would be fantastic.

The articles suggesting or stating that the Colt won out because of the bias of those who made the decision have always intrigued me. I couldn't say if the allegation were true, but it does add interest to the Savage as far as I'm concerned.

Lugerdoc · 01-05-2006, 10:40 AM

Since 200 more of these were made for troop trials, over the initial 5 for initial testing (only 5 of the .45 lugers submitted) the prices reflect the relative numbers of these made. TH

Curly1 · 01-05-2006, 07:34 PM

Here's a "cheaper" 1910 test model

http://www.checkpointcharlies.com/sh...&categoryid=13

southriv · 01-07-2006, 09:51 PM

There's one on my neck of the woods for about 9k, also. I've seen it twice at a gun show in Springfield, MA. Last time was Dec 5, 2005.

Bob

Edward Tinker · 01-07-2006, 10:43 PM

I also have a 32 acp, like it and would love to own a 45.

Pete Ebbink · 01-23-2006, 05:01 PM

Here's is the photo shown in the US Trials report...different than the photo I started this discussion with...

Grip checkering pattern is different and this old photo may show what appears to be a "flat-slab" style of barrel...not a rounded barrel.

Differing front sight blade and no grip screws...

Dwight Gruber · 01-23-2006, 05:45 PM

Pete,

It looks to me that the "flat-slab" barrel is an artifact of poor lighting and poor photo reproducton.

Remember that the test pistol was a one-off prototype, and the other guns illustrated are from a 200-piece production run. One might expect a few changes, improvements as a result of the test and slight modifications to facilitate actual production.

And thanks very much for the photo of the actual test trials piece, very interesting.

--Dwight

Rod WMG · 01-23-2006, 07:51 PM

No grip screws are a characteristic of the later .32 And .380 pistols by Savage.

01-04-2006, 06:28 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	.45 cal Test Savage... Sold by Old Town Station LTD recently for $ 11.5K...reportedly from the same 1907 US Trails where the .45 lugers competed...

01-05-2006, 07:13 AM	#4
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	I have a pistol very much like this one in 380 ,it jams every other shot but is still kinda neat. clint __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

01-05-2006, 10:40 AM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Since 200 more of these were made for troop trials, over the initial 5 for initial testing (only 5 of the .45 lugers submitted) the prices reflect the relative numbers of these made. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-05-2006, 07:34 PM	#7
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,228 Thanks: 111 Thanked 702 Times in 364 Posts	Here's a "cheaper" 1910 test model http://www.checkpointcharlies.com/sh...&categoryid=13 __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

01-04-2006, 07:59 PM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Pete, It certainly must be, because as the known .45 lugers this one doesn't look like the photograph in the 1907 test report either

01-04-2006, 08:03 PM	#3
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	Here's another for sale on Gunsamerica for $17.5k I'd sure like to have one... --Dwight

01-05-2006, 07:17 AM	#5
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yep, I have one of the .32 ACP's of this basic design. I've always admired it and think the .45 would be fantastic. The articles suggesting or stating that the Colt won out because of the bias of those who made the decision have always intrigued me. I couldn't say if the allegation were true, but it does add interest to the Savage as far as I'm concerned.

01-07-2006, 09:51 PM	#8
southriv User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Countryside New England Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There's one on my neck of the woods for about 9k, also. I've seen it twice at a gun show in Springfield, MA. Last time was Dec 5, 2005. Bob

01-07-2006, 10:43 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,910 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	I also have a 32 acp, like it and would love to own a 45.

01-23-2006, 05:01 PM	#10
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Here's is the photo shown in the US Trials report...different than the photo I started this discussion with... Grip checkering pattern is different and this old photo may show what appears to be a "flat-slab" style of barrel...not a rounded barrel. Differing front sight blade and no grip screws...

01-23-2006, 05:45 PM	#11
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	Pete, It looks to me that the "flat-slab" barrel is an artifact of poor lighting and poor photo reproducton. Remember that the test pistol was a one-off prototype, and the other guns illustrated are from a 200-piece production run. One might expect a few changes, improvements as a result of the test and slight modifications to facilitate actual production. And thanks very much for the photo of the actual test trials piece, very interesting. --Dwight

01-23-2006, 07:51 PM	#12
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No grip screws are a characteristic of the later .32 And .380 pistols by Savage.