P.08 for Dummies

01-31-2002, 10:27 PM

Fellas, I'm planning on purchasing my first P.08 and I've got a few basic questions. Are Lugers as tempermental as legend would have me believe ? I've always heard that they are rather picky about the ammo fed to them. Is .30 Luger as hard to come by as .30 Mauser ? Are there "trouble spots" I need to be aware of when purchasing a P.08 ?

Lonnie Zimmerman · 01-31-2002, 10:33 PM

With a good magazine and a Wolff magazine spring plus Tetra Gun Grease on the toggle rails, all of my 9mm Lugers never miss a beat. 30 Mauser and 30 Luger ammo is available, but MUCH more expensive than 9mm.

Lonnie

Jim · 02-01-2002, 11:10 AM

Original .30 luger ammo IS expensive, but some import (Fiocci) and some from companies like "Circled Wagons", a local Oregon company, now produce .30 luger at a reasonable price.(about $15 for box or bag of 50)

sidhartha · 02-01-2002, 01:16 PM

I have a Tokarev that shoots the .30 mauser but isn't .30 luger and .30 mauser near the same design and both can be chambered?

sidhartha

John Sabato · 02-01-2002, 01:48 PM

These two cartridges are NOT interchangeable! This is absolutely an UNSAFE practice!

regards,

John

02-01-2002, 06:39 PM

I agree 100% with John. Just because it will fit in the chamber and will cycle the action doesn't mean its safe. I destroyed every spring in a 98 Mauser Broomhandle shooting 7.62x25 Cz ammo instead of the more expensive 7.63 mauser. It was great while it lasted though. Very impressive fireball.

RGG/Roadkill

Lonnie Zimmerman · 02-01-2002, 11:25 PM

Roadkill; try 6gr of Herco and a 85 gr Sierra and you won"t be sorry!! (In your Broomhandle)

Lonnie

sidhartha · 02-02-2002, 12:28 AM

No. I was not going to do it. I value my guns to much for that. Just that this stream reminded me of a conversation in a local gun shop where some guys were discusing the two calibers being nearly the same. Obviously they did not know what they were talking about.

sidhartha

02-15-2002, 10:01 PM

Fellas, thanks for the advice. I have a P.08 coming from Mr. Supica @ The Armchair Gun Show. It's a 1930s 9mm piece with black plastic grips....I'm guessing those aren't original. I ran three rounds of .30 Tok through my bolo....pinched the webbing of my hand each time so I got scared and stopped.

Dok · 02-16-2002, 11:08 AM

could well be original. After 1937 black plastic grips were issued on some Lugers. And due to the practice of dip bluing everying after 1937, with the black grips, it gave rise to the "marketing term" - BLACK WIDOW.

Dok

02-16-2002, 08:30 PM

Dok, maybe I'll save my $18 and not get those wood grips from SARCO. This weapon is dated 1933 and is S/42 code so I may just keep them on the P.08. Maybe they were added sometime during the Nazi reign.Thank ya, Sir.

02-16-2002, 11:50 PM

Dated 1933 and S/42? You may have some kind of rarity.

MikeP · 02-17-2002, 02:06 PM

I shot a couple dozen rounds of that Tokarev stuff thru a decent broomhandle a few years ago-took a close look and noticed some distortion/mushrooming on the reciever behind the locking bolt. Thing is, I knew better. I won't shoot anything thru that gun now-also I would never sell it as a shooter.

"If you're gonna be stupid, you better be tough."

Dok · 02-17-2002, 02:15 PM

02-17-2002, 06:54 PM

Well, Mr. Supica describes the weapon as "mixed" so maybe some pieces were added later. I had a 1917 Oberndorf Gew98 that had been reworked during the early Nazi era and had a sight base coded S/42.

01-31-2002, 10:27 PM	#1
gewehr guy Guest Posts: n/a	P.08 for Dummies Fellas, I'm planning on purchasing my first P.08 and I've got a few basic questions. Are Lugers as tempermental as legend would have me believe ? I've always heard that they are rather picky about the ammo fed to them. Is .30 Luger as hard to come by as .30 Mauser ? Are there "trouble spots" I need to be aware of when purchasing a P.08 ?

01-31-2002, 10:33 PM	#2
Lonnie Zimmerman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 523 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: P.08 for Dummies With a good magazine and a Wolff magazine spring plus Tetra Gun Grease on the toggle rails, all of my 9mm Lugers never miss a beat. 30 Mauser and 30 Luger ammo is available, but MUCH more expensive than 9mm. Lonnie

02-01-2002, 11:10 AM	#3
Jim User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: P.08 for Dummies Original .30 luger ammo IS expensive, but some import (Fiocci) and some from companies like "Circled Wagons", a local Oregon company, now produce .30 luger at a reasonable price.(about $15 for box or bag of 50)

02-01-2002, 01:16 PM	#4
sidhartha User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 52 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: P.08 for Dummies I have a Tokarev that shoots the .30 mauser but isn't .30 luger and .30 mauser near the same design and both can be chambered? sidhartha

02-01-2002, 01:48 PM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	NO!!! DON'T DO IT SID! These two cartridges are NOT interchangeable! This is absolutely an UNSAFE practice! regards, John

02-01-2002, 06:39 PM	#6
R. Grady/Roadkill Guest Posts: n/a	Re: P.08 for Dummies I agree 100% with John. Just because it will fit in the chamber and will cycle the action doesn't mean its safe. I destroyed every spring in a 98 Mauser Broomhandle shooting 7.62x25 Cz ammo instead of the more expensive 7.63 mauser. It was great while it lasted though. Very impressive fireball. RGG/Roadkill

02-01-2002, 11:25 PM	#7
Lonnie Zimmerman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 523 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: P.08 for Dummies Roadkill; try 6gr of Herco and a 85 gr Sierra and you won"t be sorry!! (In your Broomhandle) Lonnie

02-02-2002, 12:28 AM	#8
sidhartha User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 52 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NO!!! DON'T DO IT SID! No. I was not going to do it. I value my guns to much for that. Just that this stream reminded me of a conversation in a local gun shop where some guys were discusing the two calibers being nearly the same. Obviously they did not know what they were talking about. sidhartha

02-15-2002, 10:01 PM	#9
gewehr guy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: P.08 for Dummies Fellas, thanks for the advice. I have a P.08 coming from Mr. Supica @ The Armchair Gun Show. It's a 1930s 9mm piece with black plastic grips....I'm guessing those aren't original. I ran three rounds of .30 Tok through my bolo....pinched the webbing of my hand each time so I got scared and stopped.

02-16-2002, 11:08 AM	#10
Dok RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bermuda (Eat Your Heart Out) Posts: 1,626 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	The black plastic grips... could well be original. After 1937 black plastic grips were issued on some Lugers. And due to the practice of dip bluing everying after 1937, with the black grips, it gave rise to the "marketing term" - BLACK WIDOW. Dok

02-16-2002, 08:30 PM	#11
gewehr guy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The black plastic grips... Dok, maybe I'll save my $18 and not get those wood grips from SARCO. This weapon is dated 1933 and is S/42 code so I may just keep them on the P.08. Maybe they were added sometime during the Nazi reign.Thank ya, Sir.

02-16-2002, 11:50 PM	#12
Tracy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The black plastic grips... Dated 1933 and S/42? You may have some kind of rarity.

02-17-2002, 02:06 PM	#13
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	Re: NO!!! DON'T DO IT SID! I shot a couple dozen rounds of that Tokarev stuff thru a decent broomhandle a few years ago-took a close look and noticed some distortion/mushrooming on the reciever behind the locking bolt. Thing is, I knew better. I won't shoot anything thru that gun now-also I would never sell it as a shooter. "If you're gonna be stupid, you better be tough."

02-17-2002, 02:15 PM	#14
Dok RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bermuda (Eat Your Heart Out) Posts: 1,626 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Ooops!! (EOM)

02-17-2002, 06:54 PM	#15
gewehr guy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ooops!! Well, Mr. Supica describes the weapon as "mixed" so maybe some pieces were added later. I had a 1917 Oberndorf Gew98 that had been reworked during the early Nazi era and had a sight base coded S/42.