New acqusistion 1908 from isolation - Page 2

Norme · 03-07-2017, 03:18 PM

Hi Jack,
Thanks for the extra photos. The gun looks just fine to me, the last 2 digits of the barrel serial look like the die bounced a little, but the halos look correct as does the halo effect on the witness mark. The matching mag looks correct also.
The magazine pouch, as George has said, is Portuguese and not Imperial Navy, and as such is worth a lot less than an original Navy. I don't know what to make of the stock, it's certainly not an original Navy. Is the disc brass or lacquered steel?
I don't know what you paid, but the gun and mag alone are quite valuable.
Regards, Norm

CAP Black · 03-07-2017, 03:24 PM

rhuff:
The 3 & 8 aren't perfectly lined up with the 22 in either position under the barrel but are the same font.
Jack

CAP Black · 03-07-2017, 03:44 PM

The disk appears to be brass to me.
Jack

Norme · 03-07-2017, 03:49 PM

Hi Jack,
If the disc is indeed brass than the stock is a repro.
Regards, Norm

lugerholsterrepair · 03-07-2017, 03:52 PM

Jackm The disk appears to be brass to me. See if a magnet sticks to it.

George Anderson · 03-07-2017, 04:15 PM

The stock is one made by or for Odin and is made of maple.

CAP Black · 03-07-2017, 05:44 PM

More Pics

CAP Black · 03-07-2017, 05:48 PM

Pic

CAP Black · 03-07-2017, 05:51 PM

Pic

A magnet does not stick. So I guess that settles it. I'll be in touch with the man that sold it to me. He is a long time friend of a friend and will make it good.
Thanks
Jack

CAP Black · 03-07-2017, 05:54 PM

What a bummer! All of my previous pictures went away?????????
Help
Jack

spartacus38 · 03-07-2017, 05:59 PM

Worth:
Gun w one MM approx. 7000
Stock 200
Pouch 100
Bob

m1903a3 · 03-07-2017, 07:49 PM

The pistol appears to be in fine condition. Easily worth Bob's $7,000 if it's all matching, and could fetch $8,000 in the right sale.

$300 for the stock and pouch is generous.

CAP Black · 03-08-2017, 03:41 PM

Pics that are pertinent to the gun value. Re-entered as others were there and then they were gone.
The gun is in better than superb condition. It is all matching including the mag; which is banged up on both ears - on the wood. One can be seen in the picture. Only bluing is worn areas of grip straps. Strawing is say 60 %; No scratches, abrasions a slight amount of rust under the grips. It is a beautiful gun and has stood the test of time in remarkable shape. Grips appear to have the right amount of wear to solidify her age.
What is she worth.

wlyon · 03-08-2017, 04:11 PM

Cap
GT can fix that mag bottom. He has did 2 for me. Bill

CAP Black · 03-08-2017, 04:24 PM

Will that add to or take away from collectors' interest?
Thanks Bill.
Jack

Norme · 03-08-2017, 05:47 PM

Hi Jack,
Since the mag base doesn't have a crack that needs stabilizing I'd leave well enough alone.
Regards, Norm

DonVoigt · 03-08-2017, 09:02 PM

I would not mess with the magazine either; leave it original- any work would only raise questions about it. JMHO.

As to value, surely you know what you paid/traded/have in it; that is a known value basis.
You no doubt know that luger prices are all over the map and any single item depends not only on how "nice" it is- but where, when, how, and to whom it is sold!

CAP Black · 03-08-2017, 11:00 PM

I have wiped the oil and grime from the gun; inside and out. There was only gunk inside; no rust or missed bluing. Even the strawing is better than I first thought. The grip straps are good bluing and I would say the bluing is 98 %; strawing perhaps 75 %. Holster wear is only very slight.no scratches or bad areas.
It is indeed a real jewel of a gun. I would like to see a better Navy although there probably are some. I can only imagine and I can only hope to see one or own one. A few pics will come when I get the inside de-gunked.
Jack

wlyon · 03-08-2017, 11:15 PM

Cap
I seem to be in the minority on the mag. I will only say that when GT gets through with it you will not be able to tell it has been worked on. A beautiful luger like this deserves a decent looking mag. Bill

CAP Black · 03-09-2017, 09:08 AM

I am betwixt and between on repairing the mag.
Thanks
Jack

03-07-2017, 03:52 PM	#25
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Jackm The disk appears to be brass to me. See if a magnet sticks to it. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-07-2017, 05:44 PM	#27
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03-07-2017, 05:48 PM	#28
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03-07-2017, 05:51 PM	#29
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	Pic A magnet does not stick. So I guess that settles it. I'll be in touch with the man that sold it to me. He is a long time friend of a friend and will make it good. Thanks Jack Attached Thumbnails

03-07-2017, 07:49 PM	#32
m1903a3 User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 197 Thanks: 26 Thanked 315 Times in 112 Posts	The pistol appears to be in fine condition. Easily worth Bob's $7,000 if it's all matching, and could fetch $8,000 in the right sale. $300 for the stock and pouch is generous. __________________ - Mike Life member: NRA, OVMS, VGCA Member: NAPCA, N-SSA(Veteran) Si vis pacem, para bellum

03-07-2017, 03:18 PM	#21
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Hi Jack, Thanks for the extra photos. The gun looks just fine to me, the last 2 digits of the barrel serial look like the die bounced a little, but the halos look correct as does the halo effect on the witness mark. The matching mag looks correct also. The magazine pouch, as George has said, is Portuguese and not Imperial Navy, and as such is worth a lot less than an original Navy. I don't know what to make of the stock, it's certainly not an original Navy. Is the disc brass or lacquered steel? I don't know what you paid, but the gun and mag alone are quite valuable. Regards, Norm

03-07-2017, 03:24 PM	#22
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	rhuff: The 3 & 8 aren't perfectly lined up with the 22 in either position under the barrel but are the same font. Jack

03-07-2017, 03:44 PM	#23
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	The disk appears to be brass to me. Jack

03-07-2017, 03:49 PM	#24
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Hi Jack, If the disc is indeed brass than the stock is a repro. Regards, Norm

03-07-2017, 04:15 PM	#26
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,769 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	The stock is one made by or for Odin and is made of maple.

03-07-2017, 05:54 PM	#30
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	What a bummer! All of my previous pictures went away????????? Help Jack

03-07-2017, 05:59 PM	#31
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	Worth: Gun w one MM approx. 7000 Stock 200 Pouch 100 Bob

03-08-2017, 03:41 PM	#33
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	Gun pics Pics that are pertinent to the gun value. Re-entered as others were there and then they were gone. The gun is in better than superb condition. It is all matching including the mag; which is banged up on both ears - on the wood. One can be seen in the picture. Only bluing is worn areas of grip straps. Strawing is say 60 %; No scratches, abrasions a slight amount of rust under the grips. It is a beautiful gun and has stood the test of time in remarkable shape. Grips appear to have the right amount of wear to solidify her age. What is she worth. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by CAP Black; 03-08-2017 at 03:48 PM. Reason: add some pics

03-08-2017, 04:11 PM	#34
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,614 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,519 Times in 939 Posts	Cap GT can fix that mag bottom. He has did 2 for me. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

03-08-2017, 04:24 PM	#35
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	Will that add to or take away from collectors' interest? Thanks Bill. Jack

03-08-2017, 05:47 PM	#36
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Hi Jack, Since the mag base doesn't have a crack that needs stabilizing I'd leave well enough alone. Regards, Norm

03-08-2017, 09:02 PM	#37
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	I would not mess with the magazine either; leave it original- any work would only raise questions about it. JMHO. As to value, surely you know what you paid/traded/have in it; that is a known value basis. You no doubt know that luger prices are all over the map and any single item depends not only on how "nice" it is- but where, when, how, and to whom it is sold! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

03-08-2017, 11:00 PM	#38
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	I have wiped the oil and grime from the gun; inside and out. There was only gunk inside; no rust or missed bluing. Even the strawing is better than I first thought. The grip straps are good bluing and I would say the bluing is 98 %; strawing perhaps 75 %. Holster wear is only very slight.no scratches or bad areas. It is indeed a real jewel of a gun. I would like to see a better Navy although there probably are some. I can only imagine and I can only hope to see one or own one. A few pics will come when I get the inside de-gunked. Jack Last edited by CAP Black; 03-09-2017 at 09:06 AM. Reason: corrections

03-08-2017, 11:15 PM	#39
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,614 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,519 Times in 939 Posts	Cap I seem to be in the minority on the mag. I will only say that when GT gets through with it you will not be able to tell it has been worked on. A beautiful luger like this deserves a decent looking mag. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

03-09-2017, 09:08 AM	#40
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	I am betwixt and between on repairing the mag. Thanks Jack