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Unread 03-26-2015, 01:56 PM   #61
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Geez, do they even read the garbage they write? Mis-labeling it a 1906 is bad enough but then to call it a "short frame and receiver", which it obviously isn't, and baffle me with how it could have a "correctly marked LOADED extractor. It is a real trick to stamp anything on a 1900 extractor. Pretty nice looking gun though. Looks like it might be SN 7474 which is getting close to the end of the use of the Type II thumb safety.
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Unread 03-26-2015, 08:27 PM   #62
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Ummm...type 3 thumb safeties start intermixing with type 2 around sn 9900, and type 2 vanishes around sn 10200.

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Unread 03-26-2015, 08:42 PM   #63
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Like I said...getting close to the end (probably 2/3 the way, but not there yet) It is getting so I can't make generalizations any more, precision is required even in trivial comments. And I don't know if it is 7474, it might be 4474 or 9474. Please disregard any comment I may have made on the Type II safety (or type 2 if you prefer) on this gun. I shouldn't criticize the Proxibid ad if I can't do better.
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I wonder if they mixed up descriptions and pictures. I don't see any "Germany" on the frame or any BUG proofs mentioned in the description. It appears to be in reality another "pseudo" Test Eagle with a serial # of 7474.

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By Jove! I think you are right! I should have thought of that. Nice catch. Number 7474 is a known gun already on the list.
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The question is... if you bid, do you get the gun described or the gun pictured?
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By Jove! Now there's a saying that ain't heard everyday by youngsters! Wasn't Jove a butler or was that Jeeves?
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By Jove! Now there's a saying that ain't heard everyday by youngsters! Wasn't Jove a butler or was that Jeeves?
I was thinking it might be Mr. Camphor's butler, from Freddy the Pig, but no, his name was "Bannister". Tally-ho!

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(dated, chiefly British) minced oath for by God, Jove referring to Jupiter.  
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By Jove, I always took three threes for nine.

1623: William Shakespeare, The Tragedy of Antony and Cleopatra, Act III, scene XIII.

Favours, by Jove that thunders! What art thou, fellow?

1916: P. G. Wodehouse, A Wodehouse Miscellany, Jeeves Takes Charge.

Well, I wasn't going to have any of that sort of thing, by Jove!

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The question is... if you bid, do you get the gun described or the gun pictured?
That is a very good question. Since "a picture is worth a thousand words" one would think you would get the gun pictured.
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Someone got a nifty pistol.... John
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Greetings, all,

Today was photo-shoot day in Mecklenburg. I'll be posting pics of two other of my guns from today's files, but I thought I'd start with this one, the M1900 bought at auction. The extractor on it was twisted a bit, as well as being somewhat bent. I resisted buying one of the ones "revshop" has for sale on eBay, @ $95, and our Lugerdoc helped me out with a nice strawed one that looks great, as you shall see.

I disassembled the gun entirely, the exception being the recoil spring, and removed the ages' deposits of gunk and goo and tad more rust from corners everywhere. Then I prepped and re-strawed the small parts and reassembled it. It is now wearing one of my Argentinian grip panels on its left side, so both now match at 20 lpi pattern.
As it is now, I think I'll refinish right over the pits and call it good after that. Refreshed straw has perked it up, for sure.
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'Scuse me, Something is amiss with my workstation along the lines of weird things happening when I click. It looked OK, somehow, in the preview. I know that putting up with each of my words once may be more than enough; didn't mean to overburden...
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Recent threads such as DonVoigt's Navy project and Markbritt's WTS 1900 AE have shown, to me anyway, that refinishing these very early Lugers over pitting etc. is a reasonable approach to improve appearance and prevent further deterioration of the pistol surface. So your plan to refinish over the present surface makes sense.

However this pistol looks pretty good/interesting as it is now. The re-strawing and steel wool work has improved appearance significantly. So in my view you now have the option of leaving it as it is and protecting the surface with Renaissance Wax. I'm not saying that is a better strategy, I am just pointing out that given the improvements made, you have some options.

Shakespeare on bluing: "All that glisters is not gold." (Merchant of Venice - Act 2, Scene 7).

Have you fired any more rounds with it?

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As it is now, I think I'll refinish right over the pits and call it good after that. Refreshed straw has perked it up, for sure.
I am quite surprised that it has ANY bluing left on it at all. My 1900AE bluing has all turned gray [patina] and I am content to leave it that way. (Marg Helgenberger was once a foxy looking chick; her facelift was a horrible disaster. I don't want people to look at my Luger and say "WTF???")...

Dave, I spent 15 years proofreading OER's [Officer Evaluation Reports - the paperwork that gets an officer promoted...or not]. The college girls/clerk-typists really massacred the English language on them. I get pretty anal about my own posts here; I'll go over them several times clearing out mistakes. These old IBM mechanical keyboards that I love don't make it easy either. But I try to make an effort.

Some members here only read the post titles, and don't bother with the main text. But that's a topic I'll save for a future rant.
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All NYS permits are concealed carry. Some states I've been in allow purchase but not carry concealed.
I ran across the current scoop on NY pistol possession! http://www.ny.gov/services/apply-firearms-license
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I was thinking it might be Mr. Camphor's butler, from Freddy the Pig, but no, his name was "Bannister".
Just browsing for 1900AE's and finally noticed Dave's comment. Wow! I haven't thought about Freddy The Pig in over 60 years! Or The Thinking Machine, or Bookmobiles, or kids book services back in the '50's.

NYS PP's must be county-specific. Mine dating back to the late 70's, has always been CC. I just had it out as I will be putting all my handguns on GB soon. Someone in our local club asked me if my S&W M41 had a brake on it - I couldn't remember. Had to dig it out of the safe and look. I'd forgotten that my 1900AE came with a wooden display case. Have to take that into account when I list it.
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