Old Family Heirloom - Page 2

John Sabato · 09-30-2003, 02:08 PM

Could you be so kind as to remove the top half of the gun and give us a closeup of the witness mark on the underside where the barrel and frame meet... Since your gun is so pristine, it would serve as a great example for the study on these marks being done by Dwight Gruber...

Thanks.

b.goodwin · 09-30-2003, 02:39 PM

I have taken other firearms apart, but i have never taken a luger apart. is there directions for doing this without doing any damage? Also do many others have the certificate, with their firearm? And does it add value?

John Sabato · 09-30-2003, 03:46 PM

If you enter this site via the homepage there is a black menu on the left side of the screen. There are disassembly instructions listed under the Technical Information link. If you came directly to the discussion pages there is a link to the Lugerforum homepage at the bottom of every page on this site.

In a nutshell... insert an empty magazine. Pull back the toggle until it locks. turn down the takedown lever in front of, and slightly above the trigger 90 degrees clockwise...

remove the magazine.

pull back and lower the toggle slowly...

turn the pistol upside down.

make sure the safety is not on.

the top of the Luger will now slide off the grip frame moving forward.

the photo should be of the area under the top half just where the barrel meets the receiver.

reassemble in reverse order... including the part about turning the pistol upside down...

If you have a problem, just refer to the directions posted under Technical Information.

You shouldn't have to force anything. It will not harm your gun to take it down...

The capture papers mean more to some collectors than others... It can add some value (perhaps $50 to 100). The problem with the capture papers is that they with technology being what it is, they can be easily counterfeited... so many collectors are wary of the papers validity.

Since you don't intend to sell yours I would take steps to preserve the paper which will eventually turn to dust if not sealed in something. A clear vinyl document protector is a good start, but I would opt for a good quality picture frame... Consult with a local museum or even the Library of Congress or National Archives on exactly how to preserve a paper document. Some day, you great-great-granchildren will thank your for keeping everything in good condition.

Navy · 09-30-2003, 06:34 PM

A truly magnificent rig! What a wonderful legacy.

Tom A.

b.goodwin · 10-02-2003, 02:52 PM

Photos John Requested. Could you tell me what they mean.

Imperial Arms · 10-02-2003, 07:47 PM

Those are inspector proof marks which were applied while the pistol was being manufactured or assembled.

Albert

John Sabato · 10-03-2003, 10:19 AM

Absolutely superb photography! Thanks for taking the time and sharing these photos with the Lugerforum.

John D. · 10-03-2003, 10:56 AM

Wow.....!!!!

What a terrific thread - and excellent photos!!!! (Makes me want to try to photograph one of mine in this detail..) Simply a terrific thread - and RIG - and replies - and.....!!!!!

b.goodwin · 10-03-2003, 12:17 PM

I must tell you I did not do the photos, a good frend of mine named Alan Gott did the photos. He also did the croping, the upload, just about everything. With out him I would not have been able to do this. I am in his debt.

09-30-2003, 02:08 PM	#21
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Could you be so kind as to remove the top half of the gun and give us a closeup of the witness mark on the underside where the barrel and frame meet... Since your gun is so pristine, it would serve as a great example for the study on these marks being done by Dwight Gruber... Thanks. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-30-2003, 03:46 PM	#23
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	If you enter this site via the homepage there is a black menu on the left side of the screen. There are disassembly instructions listed under the Technical Information link. If you came directly to the discussion pages there is a link to the Lugerforum homepage at the bottom of every page on this site. In a nutshell... insert an empty magazine. Pull back the toggle until it locks. turn down the takedown lever in front of, and slightly above the trigger 90 degrees clockwise... remove the magazine. pull back and lower the toggle slowly... turn the pistol upside down. make sure the safety is not on. the top of the Luger will now slide off the grip frame moving forward. the photo should be of the area under the top half just where the barrel meets the receiver. reassemble in reverse order... including the part about turning the pistol upside down... If you have a problem, just refer to the directions posted under Technical Information. You shouldn't have to force anything. It will not harm your gun to take it down... The capture papers mean more to some collectors than others... It can add some value (perhaps $50 to 100). The problem with the capture papers is that they with technology being what it is, they can be easily counterfeited... so many collectors are wary of the papers validity. Since you don't intend to sell yours I would take steps to preserve the paper which will eventually turn to dust if not sealed in something. A clear vinyl document protector is a good start, but I would opt for a good quality picture frame... Consult with a local museum or even the Library of Congress or National Archives on exactly how to preserve a paper document. Some day, you great-great-granchildren will thank your for keeping everything in good condition. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-03-2003, 10:19 AM	#27
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Absolutely superb photography! Thanks for taking the time and sharing these photos with the Lugerforum. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-30-2003, 02:39 PM	#22
b.goodwin User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: michigan Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have taken other firearms apart, but i have never taken a luger apart. is there directions for doing this without doing any damage? Also do many others have the certificate, with their firearm? And does it add value?

09-30-2003, 06:34 PM	#24
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	A truly magnificent rig! What a wonderful legacy. Tom A.

10-02-2003, 02:52 PM	#25
b.goodwin User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: michigan Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Photos John Requested. Could you tell me what they mean.

10-02-2003, 07:47 PM	#26
Imperial Arms Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Malta, EU Posts: 579 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Those are inspector proof marks which were applied while the pistol was being manufactured or assembled. Albert

10-03-2003, 10:56 AM	#28
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Wow.....!!!! What a terrific thread - and excellent photos!!!! (Makes me want to try to photograph one of mine in this detail..) Simply a terrific thread - and RIG - and replies - and.....!!!!!

10-03-2003, 12:17 PM	#29
b.goodwin User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: michigan Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I must tell you I did not do the photos, a good frend of mine named Alan Gott did the photos. He also did the croping, the upload, just about everything. With out him I would not have been able to do this. I am in his debt.