My Favorite Brand~NRA - Page 2

cirelaw · 08-08-2017, 01:41 PM

Here are the only two DWM artillery as appeared in Jans' Weimar masterpiece!

DonVoigt · 08-08-2017, 03:23 PM

On Page 204, Jan has a list of Navy marked Weimar lugers, of these some 30 are Navy marked artilleries. I have added a couple more from observation.

Mine is a 1917/1920 N 1303:

cirelaw · 08-08-2017, 04:09 PM

Don, sweet! Mine is an Erfurt and only 2 are listed and one is mine!

wlyon · 08-08-2017, 04:32 PM

Don
Any idea why the two different fonts on the 3. Bill

sheepherder · 08-08-2017, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

Bill, I'm sorry I don't understand your question!

Bill is asking about the backstrap 3's on Don's Luger. They're different.

DonVoigt · 08-08-2017, 07:54 PM

Yes, Bill- the Navy backstrap marking is etched and was applied some 10 to 15 years after the luger was made.

Navy gripstrap markings were applied by several navy entities, Nordsee and Ostsee on these artillery models, Wilhelmshaven and Kiel on earlier ones during WWI, and maybe others.

sheepherder · 08-08-2017, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Yes, Bill- the Navy backstrap marking is etched and was applied some 10 to 15 years after the luger was made.

When you say etched, you mean like a pantograph? And maybe the armorer had to use two different font 3's because a set only has one?

Or because the original rack number was 30 and the later armory added the 1 and second 3?

It's always interesting to poke around in threads I don't have a Luger for...

cirelaw · 08-08-2017, 09:31 PM

Its definitely 100% legit. This was the late Weimer period and they were slapping pieces together with whatever they had left over from years of war! Different parts, dies and etc scrapped together!. These weren't Kreighoffs~They were desperate and the last thing they would be concerned with would be perfect proofs! Common sense my friend~ Its real and a valuable piece of proud German Weimar History~

Ron Wood · 08-08-2017, 10:16 PM

The back strap markings are pantographed. On a curved surface it is difficult to get the cutting tip to contact the surface consistently. The shape of the 3s appear generally to be the same, it is just that the left side of the first 3 is cut shallow/incomplete. Just my opinion.
Ron

cirelaw · 08-09-2017, 08:16 PM

Hi Ron! Thank You For You Valuable Input!!!

08-08-2017, 01:41 PM	#21
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Here are the only two DWM artillery as appeared in Jans' Weimar masterpiece! Attached Thumbnails

08-08-2017, 03:23 PM	#22
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	On Page 204, Jan has a list of Navy marked Weimar lugers, of these some 30 are Navy marked artilleries. I have added a couple more from observation. Mine is a 1917/1920 N 1303: Attached Thumbnails __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

08-08-2017, 04:09 PM	#23
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Don, sweet! Mine is an Erfurt and only 2 are listed and one is mine! Attached Thumbnails

08-08-2017, 04:32 PM	#24
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,614 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,519 Times in 939 Posts	Don Any idea why the two different fonts on the 3. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

08-08-2017, 07:54 PM	#26
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	Yes, Bill- the Navy backstrap marking is etched and was applied some 10 to 15 years after the luger was made. Navy gripstrap markings were applied by several navy entities, Nordsee and Ostsee on these artillery models, Wilhelmshaven and Kiel on earlier ones during WWI, and maybe others. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

08-08-2017, 09:31 PM	#28
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Its definitely 100% legit. This was the late Weimer period and they were slapping pieces together with whatever they had left over from years of war! Different parts, dies and etc scrapped together!. These weren't Kreighoffs~They were desperate and the last thing they would be concerned with would be perfect proofs! Common sense my friend~ Its real and a valuable piece of proud German Weimar History~

08-08-2017, 10:16 PM	#29
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	The back strap markings are pantographed. On a curved surface it is difficult to get the cutting tip to contact the surface consistently. The shape of the 3s appear generally to be the same, it is just that the left side of the first 3 is cut shallow/incomplete. Just my opinion. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-09-2017, 08:16 PM	#30
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Hi Ron! Thank You For You Valuable Input!!!