Black Widow Grip Opinions

garandguy56 · 08-25-2013, 02:35 PM

Hi all,

What do you think of these grips? Original?

alvin · 08-25-2013, 03:42 PM

Some years ago, I took a taxi at night while traveling in a big city in southern China. The charge was about ¥30 (roughly $4 at that time), I paid the driver ¥100 (about $12), and he gave me a ¥50 note back, along with a few smaller bills.

Next morning, I wanted to buy a pack of cigarettes from a nearby small store. I handed that ¥50 note to the cashier, she took it over, looking at it, then returned it back to me, "I don't want this one" .......

I was astonished. A fake? She did not say it's a fake, but she rejected it. Returned back to my room, I compared this note with a few other notes, be honest, I could not see any difference. Shaking it in air, the feeling was same as well. After that, I tried that note at a few places, even including the highway toll station. All of them rejected it. So I carried that note back to home. Even today, I don't know what's wrong with that note, and how could all of them tell it's a fake in a few seconds...

If one day, people could replicate grip to the quality like they replicate money, this world will become more complex. At this moment, no worry.

Like_Old_Guns · 08-25-2013, 03:53 PM

Look at the photos of original grips in post #1 of this thread on the Jan Still site.

http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...S-DATA-REQUEST

You could also post over there; there are many grip experts specific to this topic.

They don't look original to me.

G.T. · 08-25-2013, 03:56 PM

One of the best sets for shooters... but not Bakelite.. They break pretty easy... some kind of cheesy resin.... But you really get a very good grip with them...

....til...lat'r...GT

CJS57 · 08-25-2013, 08:14 PM

Not original.

Sergio Natali · 08-26-2013, 08:20 AM

I like "alvin" answer.
I'm afaid they're not original, but I'm not an expert and I might be wrong.

John Sabato · 08-26-2013, 09:40 AM

These grips are definitely NOT original byf grips. They are aftermarket... I am just not sure which aftermarket they are from. Possibly Finland, or one of the eastern Europe countries...

Note the checkering pattern... and then compare it to a known set of Luger BYF bakelite grips. The checkering on these almost reminds me of "goosebumps"... The checkering on original grips is VERY precise and a consistent pattern. The difference is VERY obvious...

...and I concur that these would make great grips for any shooter!

ithacaartist · 08-26-2013, 10:08 AM

The other giveaway is the lack of threaded holes in the backs of the grip panels...

08-25-2013, 03:53 PM	#3
Like_Old_Guns Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 26 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Look at the photos of original grips in post #1 of this thread on the Jan Still site. http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...S-DATA-REQUEST You could also post over there; there are many grip experts specific to this topic. They don't look original to me. __________________ Roger NRA Endowment Member and CRPA Handgun Racks - http://www.ArmoryRacks.com

08-25-2013, 03:56 PM	#4
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,502 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,639 Times in 1,001 Posts	great for shoot'en! One of the best sets for shooters... but not Bakelite.. They break pretty easy... some kind of cheesy resin.... But you really get a very good grip with them... ....til...lat'r...GT

08-26-2013, 08:20 AM	#6
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	I like "alvin" answer. I'm afaid they're not original, but I'm not an expert and I might be wrong. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

08-26-2013, 09:40 AM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	These grips are definitely NOT original byf grips. They are aftermarket... I am just not sure which aftermarket they are from. Possibly Finland, or one of the eastern Europe countries... Note the checkering pattern... and then compare it to a known set of Luger BYF bakelite grips. The checkering on these almost reminds me of "goosebumps"... The checkering on original grips is VERY precise and a consistent pattern. The difference is VERY obvious... ...and I concur that these would make great grips for any shooter! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-26-2013, 10:08 AM	#8
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,331 Thanks: 7,229 Thanked 2,548 Times in 1,355 Posts	The other giveaway is the lack of threaded holes in the backs of the grip panels... __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

08-25-2013, 02:35 PM	#1
garandguy56 User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 55 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Black Widow Grip Opinions Hi all, What do you think of these grips? Original? Attached Thumbnails

08-25-2013, 03:42 PM	#2
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Some years ago, I took a taxi at night while traveling in a big city in southern China. The charge was about ¥30 (roughly $4 at that time), I paid the driver ¥100 (about $12), and he gave me a ¥50 note back, along with a few smaller bills. Next morning, I wanted to buy a pack of cigarettes from a nearby small store. I handed that ¥50 note to the cashier, she took it over, looking at it, then returned it back to me, "I don't want this one" ....... I was astonished. A fake? She did not say it's a fake, but she rejected it. Returned back to my room, I compared this note with a few other notes, be honest, I could not see any difference. Shaking it in air, the feeling was same as well. After that, I tried that note at a few places, even including the highway toll station. All of them rejected it. So I carried that note back to home. Even today, I don't know what's wrong with that note, and how could all of them tell it's a fake in a few seconds... If one day, people could replicate grip to the quality like they replicate money, this world will become more complex. At this moment, no worry.

08-25-2013, 08:14 PM	#5
CJS57 User Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 224 Thanks: 0 Thanked 81 Times in 41 Posts	Not original.