1900 Parts & Ideal Stock and Grips on eBay

ithacaartist · 11-10-2013, 01:47 AM

http://www.ebay.com/sch/marklav/m.ht...p2047675.l2562

mystical_tutor · 11-11-2013, 10:55 PM

Thanks for putting that up. I sure would lkie that stock to go on my 1900 but it will probably get way out of my price range.

Never heard of 10 shot mags before. Were those standard order items from DWM? Guess I have a lot to learn.

Gary

ithacaartist · 11-12-2013, 02:46 AM

Yes, makes me think the lister is Luger-deficient in his info. I see listings describing the capacities of all the different magazines for the Luger wannabes, and they're very often incorrect. It means the seller does not know the gun. Many sellers just part out guns to maximize their returns; some, I think, do only that. One shudders to think of the likelihood that collectible firearms are scrapped out for a buck and thrown to the corners of the eath...

On the other hand, it's nice to find just the part you need, albeit a little expensive, on eBay or GunBroker. We hope they're all NOS, or came from a broken frame.

Edward Tinker · 11-12-2013, 08:46 AM

The guy is not very fair

I asked him about a buy it now (before you posted this here) and he said, no I don't do that. So, then he listed all the other parts to a gun, the two I was interested in a receiver and toggle, he then dropped bids on it and did a buy it now. Now, I did not ask about those parts, but it irritated me.

Sergio Natali · 11-12-2013, 11:01 AM

Quite in a good state I would say.

I've got a 1900 DWM "American Eagle" with an Ideal Stock; I bought it last year, I'd never seen one before here in Italy.

ithacaartist · 11-12-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by luger.parabellum

I've got a 1900 DWM "American Eagle" with an Ideal Stock; I bought it last year, I'd never seen one before here in Italy.

It would be interesting to be able to deduce more details of the travels your pistol and stock/holster must have made; first made in Germany, then sold in the U.S. (the U.S. made stock and grips added), finally winding up in Italy?

SteveM · 11-12-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

The guy is not very fair

I asked him about a buy it now (before you posted this here) and he said, no I don't do that. So, then he listed all the other parts to a gun, the two I was interested in a receiver and toggle, he then dropped bids on it and did a buy it now. Now, I did not ask about those parts, but it irritated me.

I was watching those parts, wonder if the frame will be sold under the table?

aldo35 · 11-12-2013, 09:27 PM

I asked him by email if he had the frame for sale. He responded that it was destroyed. I think he got some $500 for the barreled receiver and $500 for the toggles.
Aldo35

Sergio Natali · 11-13-2013, 05:15 AM

David (Ithacaartist)

In "Early Lugers Forum" on 7-19-2013 you'll see a thread on my rig; moreover you wrote an extremely interesting post too.

Sergio

saab-bob · 11-14-2013, 04:40 PM

Well the auction for that nice Ideal stock ended and someone got a pretty good deal.
Sigh,someday when my stars are in alignment,I will have one of those stocks.

The kinda strange thing is, the guy that won the grips didn't win the stock itself.

Bob

ithacaartist · 11-15-2013, 12:55 AM

I noticed that, too. The grips just sat there initially while the stock itself was already up to about $300. I can't understand the situation, as both lots were needed for a whole system. go figure... Are there that many extra pairs of grips out there?

sheepherder · 11-15-2013, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by aldo35

I asked him by email if he had the frame for sale. He responded that it was destroyed.

I noticed he had several 'parts kits' for various pistols, all minus the serialized component. In my state, 'destroying' them does not remove them from your inventory/possession; the serialized part must be turned in to the local police who will themselves destroy it. Usually by torch. You must provide proof of ownership (except during amnesty turn-ins) to have the weapon removed from records of your possession. It's a time (and now gas) consuming process entailing lots of driving around and waiting.

That's for registered pistols/long guns. This sounds like he is selling 'parts kits' from guns confiscated by the police...Perhaps from someone who died with no heirs (or heirs prohibited from handgun ownership) and it is easier to sell off 'parts kits' than to get an FFL and sell complete handguns...

Edward Tinker · 11-15-2013, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist

I noticed that, too. The grips just sat there initially while the stock itself was already up to about $300. I can't understand the situation, as both lots were needed for a whole system. go figure... Are there that many extra pairs of grips out there?

I think more grips have made it than stocks. The stocks get the leather messed up and are easily separated from the gun, while the grips are attached.

I sold a pair of grips last year for $300 or slightly less. I had them here on the forum (no interest) and than on ebay, and they did not sell, finally sold them at Allentown gun show.

John Sabato · 11-15-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

That's for registered pistols/long guns. This sounds like he is selling 'parts kits' from guns confiscated by the police...Perhaps from someone who died with no heirs (or heirs prohibited from handgun ownership) and it is easier to sell off 'parts kits' than to get an FFL and sell complete handguns...

In the early 1970's, I had a friend, who worked in the Safety Office of the Philadelphia Police department who dealt in such parts 'kits'... I remember purchasing at least two M1911A1 kits @ $35.00 each that included everything except the serialized frames which I sourced from Essex, Inc. I never questioned the sources of those parts kits... but I also never had any doubt about where they came from either. I have no problem with recycling the useable parts of guns obtained from criminals, while at the same time complying with the law about destruction of the original weapons.

I built one of those guns for a WW2 vet who had been an MP and always wanted a .45 to remember his service. The slide was made by Union Switch and Signal... (wish I had kept that one!).

gunbugs · 11-15-2013, 10:14 PM

It is totally illogical to destroy any weapon just because it was "used by a criminal". You are "punishing" an inanimate object. If you are doing that, you should seek help.

ithacaartist · 11-16-2013, 01:15 AM

Doug,

You are correct. Certain things are all in people's heads. Take Luger collecting, for example...

Sergio Natali · 11-16-2013, 02:47 PM

Doug

I agree with you 100%

11-10-2013, 01:47 AM	#1
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,282 Thanks: 7,007 Thanked 2,476 Times in 1,319 Posts	1900 Parts & Ideal Stock and Grips on eBay http://www.ebay.com/sch/marklav/m.ht...p2047675.l2562 __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

11-12-2013, 02:46 AM	#3
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,282 Thanks: 7,007 Thanked 2,476 Times in 1,319 Posts	Yes, makes me think the lister is Luger-deficient in his info. I see listings describing the capacities of all the different magazines for the Luger wannabes, and they're very often incorrect. It means the seller does not know the gun. Many sellers just part out guns to maximize their returns; some, I think, do only that. One shudders to think of the likelihood that collectible firearms are scrapped out for a buck and thrown to the corners of the eath... On the other hand, it's nice to find just the part you need, albeit a little expensive, on eBay or GunBroker. We hope they're all NOS, or came from a broken frame. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

11-12-2013, 08:46 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	The guy is not very fair I asked him about a buy it now (before you posted this here) and he said, no I don't do that. So, then he listed all the other parts to a gun, the two I was interested in a receiver and toggle, he then dropped bids on it and did a buy it now. Now, I did not ask about those parts, but it irritated me. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-12-2013, 11:01 AM	#5
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Quite in a good state I would say. I've got a 1900 DWM "American Eagle" with an Ideal Stock; I bought it last year, I'd never seen one before here in Italy. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

11-12-2013, 09:27 PM	#8
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 308 Thanks: 2,159 Thanked 135 Times in 67 Posts	1900 ae I asked him by email if he had the frame for sale. He responded that it was destroyed. I think he got some $500 for the barreled receiver and $500 for the toggles. Aldo35

11-11-2013, 10:55 PM	#2
mystical_tutor User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 230 Thanks: 32 Thanked 39 Times in 25 Posts	Thanks for putting that up. I sure would lkie that stock to go on my 1900 but it will probably get way out of my price range. Never heard of 10 shot mags before. Were those standard order items from DWM? Guess I have a lot to learn. Gary

11-13-2013, 05:15 AM	#9
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	David (Ithacaartist) In "Early Lugers Forum" on 7-19-2013 you'll see a thread on my rig; moreover you wrote an extremely interesting post too. Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

11-14-2013, 04:40 PM	#10
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	Well the auction for that nice Ideal stock ended and someone got a pretty good deal. Sigh,someday when my stars are in alignment,I will have one of those stocks. The kinda strange thing is, the guy that won the grips didn't win the stock itself. Bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"

11-15-2013, 12:55 AM	#11
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,282 Thanks: 7,007 Thanked 2,476 Times in 1,319 Posts	I noticed that, too. The grips just sat there initially while the stock itself was already up to about $300. I can't understand the situation, as both lots were needed for a whole system. go figure... Are there that many extra pairs of grips out there? __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

11-15-2013, 10:14 PM	#15
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 635 Thanks: 335 Thanked 1,139 Times in 377 Posts	It is totally illogical to destroy any weapon just because it was "used by a criminal". You are "punishing" an inanimate object. If you are doing that, you should seek help.

11-16-2013, 01:15 AM	#16
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,282 Thanks: 7,007 Thanked 2,476 Times in 1,319 Posts	Doug, You are correct. Certain things are all in people's heads. Take Luger collecting, for example... __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

11-16-2013, 02:47 PM	#17
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Doug I agree with you 100% __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.