picture test early luger

[Ragnar]

See if this worked?

[Ragnar]

Good it did it did!

[Ron Wood]

Glad it did! That is an odd piece...need more photos!
Ron

[mrerick]

Try taking your photos without flash and in soft indirect shaded sunlight. They will look better.

Use a camera with adjustable focus and a tripod You'll need to get closer to show details.

Marc

[Ragnar]

will do guys,yes it’s a bit of a odd duck.
I got this piece from my brothers estate so I’m not really a collector of Lugers though I have always wanted one simply because of their history and beautiful design.
I’ll start another thread with some better pictures and hope that I can get some more information on this pistol.
Thanks.

[Sergio Natali]

Tried to magnify your picture. That looks like an interesting piece, I'm sure several of us would love to see better close-ups taken in the shade, natural lighting without flash.

Regards.

[Ragnar]

Here are a few pictures ,what throws me is the lack of serial numbers and inspection stamp etc. this Luger simply has the DWM scroll on the toggle and the serial number with GERMANY stamped on the frame beneath the barrel.
Maybe disassembled i might find a couple but most pictures I’ve seen seem to show a profusion of stamps lol.
Understand after going through the forum that this should be a very early model with the grip safety and the dished toggle knobs.
Other than that I’m in the dark.
As I said not really a collector and received this piece through my brothers estate so it does have sentimental value.

[Ragnar]

A few more!

[Ragnar]

today again removed the side plate and now see clearly the inside is stamped with the numeral 8
Actually it’s stamped twice.
I’m therefore assuming it’s original to this Luger as the serial number on the frame under the barrel is 8008. With Germany stamped beneath it.
If you look close the 8 is clearly visible.
But the style of this side plate has me stumped, it was mentioned that it could be a custom made plate but that really makes no sense to me as I’m sure there were replacement plates readily available if one were needed.
It was said by my brother that this could have been a pre production piece meaning the pistol, but just maybe the plate!
Anyone else have any thought on this strange Luger?

[Ragnar]

Just realized the picture of the inside of the plate is missing

[DonVoigt]

Side plate may have an "8", but it is not original DWM manufacture.
By serial 8008, production was well established.

Your example has been significantly buffed and refinished, probably removed a few numbers.
The original side plate would have had a number along the bottom edge.
The take down lever should have a number on the bottom also.
The mid toggle link may have a number on the bottom inside, the breech block should also have a number; the number on the rear of the toggle may have been polished away- but I think I can still see residual numbers there.

[HerrKaiser]

And those residual numbers do not match. Looks like an 8 or a 3 followed by a 5.

[Ragnar]

Seeing as this seems to be a non- matching numbers gun I’m thinking of replacing the side plate with a authentic DWM plate that would at least give it a correct look.
Just out of curiosity what would a ballpark value on this Luger be?
I did field strip it and found a number 76 on the bottom of the barrel extension. Also the recoil spring is the early type not the coil spring.
Oh,and the grips were correctly numbered 08.

[k98mike]

I'm really curious about the side plate- I've never seen any Luger with one like that. I hope someone on the forum has an answer, they probably will.

[Ragnar]

Be assured that if I do replace that plate I will keep this custom made one!

[Karl]

Ragner,

A regular P-08 side plate will fit an M1900, however, the trigger lever in the side plate is different and will not fit. In my opinion, if the "custom" side plate works OK leave it as is.

KFS

[Ragnar]

actually haven’t attempted to fire this piece yet, though cocking and dry firing produces a click. I’m going to have it inspected first.

[HerrKaiser]

Be careful dry firing it without a snap cap in it. The mechanism is fairly robust but the firing pin is probably at least 113 years old and could easily break that way. Also, before you shoot it, make sure you know which caliber it’s chambered for.

[Ragnar]

That’s a question that’s been going through my mind assumed it was 9mm simply cuz I found 5 box’s of 9mm Luger ammo in the gun safe with the piece but on reading and finding the different calibers produce had me wondering and making sure that when I have it inspected will be one of my first questions’ and yes know excess dry snapping’s not healthy for any firearm.

[rhuff]

If you look in the stickys, there is a real simple way to tell whether the caliber is 7.65Para, or 9mm Para.