value of Persian Arty

Kyrie · 01-17-2013, 08:24 PM

Gentlemen,

Any thoughts on the value of a Persian Arty Luger? Matching except mag, about 95% thinning blue. I'm thinking of finally letting it go.

Best,

Kyrie

goldwing · 01-17-2013, 10:02 PM

Kyrie. I sent you a private message, Bill Hughes

Kyrie · 01-18-2013, 08:36 AM

Bill,

Reply sent

Kyrie

Kyrie · 01-18-2013, 09:20 AM

I'll try to get some fresh photos this weekend. Until then there are some photos in the old owners' corner, under my handle ('Kyrie') in the folder named Artilleries.

Kyrie · 01-18-2013, 10:51 AM

Yup, that was the album.

I'll try to get good, sharp full right, full left, and full top. Also a shot of the magazine base.

mdrumbore · 01-19-2013, 10:24 AM

I would be very interested in some more pictures. If not sold I would be interested if the price is right.

Kyrie · 01-19-2013, 03:26 PM

Here are some photos:

guns3545 · 01-20-2013, 11:02 AM

The Crown is the Persian Acceptance stamp.

The Farsi inscription says: Pistol Model 1314. The 1314 is the date in the Muslim calendar as distinguished from the Julian date we use.

John

SIGP2101 · 01-20-2013, 04:12 PM

I find peculiar that rear sight notch is not centered properly. Is this case with all Artillery Lugers?

DavidJayUden · 01-20-2013, 04:43 PM

Sig:
Probaby has a lot to do with the camera angle. What is startling is that the taller you raise the rear sight, the further to one side it goes. I believe that this is to take into account bullet drift caused by rotational forces, which effects the bullet more as it slows.
Or so I'm told...
dju

alanint · 01-20-2013, 08:54 PM

Remember that Artillery rear sights offset as they are raised so you are not imagining This.

SIGP2101 · 01-21-2013, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanint

Remember that Artillery rear sights offset as they are raised so you are not imagining This.

I now that but that is not what I am inquiring about.
This is machined offset in the metal and it stays like that regardless of position of the rear sight. Lowering or rising sight will not change rear notch offset. This is not optical illusion, here:

DavidJayUden · 01-21-2013, 07:30 PM

I vote that it an illusion because, if you look closely, the gun is tipping slightly away. toward its left side. Stand it directly up and the sight relief notch will look better.
dju

Norme · 01-21-2013, 07:50 PM

If this helps any, here's a top view of a 1917 Artillery's rear sight. It looks to me that the notch is centered, but that the recess for the adjusting screw is not.
Regards, Norm

SIGP2101 · 01-22-2013, 01:47 PM

I find another pics of non adjustable rear Arty sight. To me this one (V notch) looks pretty centered inside it's recess.

And this one too:

Wondering weather was it a reason for of-center V notch on that Persian or it was just a sloppiness in QC department of DWM. Another fact is that among these three 1917 DWMs we have 3 different rear sights configuration. Hmmm...

John Sabato · 01-22-2013, 02:07 PM

Kyrie... where the heck have you been? The south pole? Good to see you are still alive.... we haven't heard from you since 2004!

I thought maybe you had gotten out of collecting...

What have you been up to?

kind regards, -John

Kyrie · 01-22-2013, 04:02 PM

Actually I did pretty much die, and come back. Strange story, PM send, old friend :-)

Michael Zeleny · 02-04-2013, 11:47 AM

Here is a comp from last year:

Asking prices have gone up.

Kyrie · 03-17-2013, 09:24 AM

Purely FYI, Persian Arty is now up on Gun Broker.

Grimpo · 10-07-2013, 04:14 AM

Hello.

I would like to ask for your opinion about the value of Persian LP08, no mag, no holster or other extras. Just plain LP08, matching numbers, by the pictures in very good condition.

Thanks.

01-17-2013, 08:24 PM	#1
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	value of Persian Arty Gentlemen, Any thoughts on the value of a Persian Arty Luger? Matching except mag, about 95% thinning blue. I'm thinking of finally letting it go. Best, Kyrie

01-21-2013, 07:50 PM	#14
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	If this helps any, here's a top view of a 1917 Artillery's rear sight. It looks to me that the notch is centered, but that the recess for the adjusting screw is not. Regards, Norm Attached Thumbnails

02-04-2013, 11:47 AM	#18
Michael Zeleny Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 525 Thanks: 129 Thanked 138 Times in 76 Posts	Here is a comp from last year: Asking prices have gone up. __________________ Michael Zeleny@post.harvard.edu -- http://larvatus.livejournal.com/ -- 7576 Willow Glen Road, Los Angeles, CA 90046 -- 323.363.1860 All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett

01-17-2013, 10:02 PM	#2
goldwing User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Upper South Carolina Posts: 92 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts	Kyrie. I sent you a private message, Bill Hughes

01-18-2013, 08:36 AM	#3
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Bill, Reply sent Kyrie

01-18-2013, 09:20 AM	#4
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	I'll try to get some fresh photos this weekend. Until then there are some photos in the old owners' corner, under my handle ('Kyrie') in the folder named Artilleries.

01-18-2013, 10:51 AM	#5
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Yup, that was the album. I'll try to get good, sharp full right, full left, and full top. Also a shot of the magazine base.

01-19-2013, 10:24 AM	#6
mdrumbore User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 51 Thanks: 7 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	I would be very interested in some more pictures. If not sold I would be interested if the price is right.

01-19-2013, 03:26 PM	#7
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Here are some photos:

01-20-2013, 11:02 AM	#8
guns3545 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 435 Thanks: 649 Thanked 490 Times in 216 Posts	The Crown is the Persian Acceptance stamp. The Farsi inscription says: Pistol Model 1314. The 1314 is the date in the Muslim calendar as distinguished from the Julian date we use. John

01-20-2013, 04:12 PM	#9
SIGP2101 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 256 Thanks: 74 Thanked 67 Times in 32 Posts	I find peculiar that rear sight notch is not centered properly. Is this case with all Artillery Lugers?

01-20-2013, 04:43 PM	#10
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Sig: Probaby has a lot to do with the camera angle. What is startling is that the taller you raise the rear sight, the further to one side it goes. I believe that this is to take into account bullet drift caused by rotational forces, which effects the bullet more as it slows. Or so I'm told... dju

01-20-2013, 08:54 PM	#11
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Remember that Artillery rear sights offset as they are raised so you are not imagining This.

01-21-2013, 07:30 PM	#13
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I vote that it an illusion because, if you look closely, the gun is tipping slightly away. toward its left side. Stand it directly up and the sight relief notch will look better. dju

01-22-2013, 01:47 PM	#15
SIGP2101 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 256 Thanks: 74 Thanked 67 Times in 32 Posts	I find another pics of non adjustable rear Arty sight. To me this one (V notch) looks pretty centered inside it's recess. And this one too: Wondering weather was it a reason for of-center V notch on that Persian or it was just a sloppiness in QC department of DWM. Another fact is that among these three 1917 DWMs we have 3 different rear sights configuration. Hmmm...

01-22-2013, 02:07 PM	#16
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Kyrie... where the heck have you been? The south pole? Good to see you are still alive.... we haven't heard from you since 2004! I thought maybe you had gotten out of collecting... What have you been up to? kind regards, -John

01-22-2013, 04:02 PM	#17
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Actually I did pretty much die, and come back. Strange story, PM send, old friend :-)

03-17-2013, 09:24 AM	#19
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Purely FYI, Persian Arty is now up on Gun Broker.

10-07-2013, 04:14 AM	#20
Grimpo User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hello. I would like to ask for your opinion about the value of Persian LP08, no mag, no holster or other extras. Just plain LP08, matching numbers, by the pictures in very good condition. Thanks.