Jerry Burney Original

cirelaw · 10-07-2013, 09:44 PM

He will provide a description. ^Yes Its Real!~~~~Eric

First off this is IMO an original P-Kasten box. It has an age that would be impossible to fake. I made several observations immediately.
The cross bars on the top lid..they appear to be the only wood that is different. These are oak! Very evident from the grain. Also they were carefully routed with a nice smooth edge!

The entire box appears to be made of clear pine. The top even shows a line of heart! Only an end handle piece has a few small knots.

Too the bottom has 14 flathead screws holding it on. I can find no evidence of any nails having been used on the bottom.

The side carry handles have been screwed on with dome head screws rather than flatheads.

There are 2 screw holes in the bottom..these were likely for the loader block.

The handle in the top is absolutely flush with the wood top.
The hardware is made of very light gauge steel.. In particular the plate under the handle. It is very light gauge.
The corners are very tightly mortised..8 for a total of 16.
The carry handle is set with 6 large head rivets.
The side carry handles have a bent stop.
In one of the photo’s you can see behind the front board where the little stops were chisled out. The remnants are quite evident!
The hasps are also very light steel. The clasps portion of the hasps are very different. Smaller backing and they are stamped steel not round bent wire.
The color is very interesting..more of an olive drab than anything else.
The wood walls and top are quite thin as well..I have not measured them yet.
The rivets in the top lid, hinge and hasps there are 3 of them are set absolutely flush. These boxes were meant to be stacked without metal rubbing! The only marking I found on it is apparently the maker mark, LINCKE & Co. The lettering above that is hard to make out? Something fabric Munchen.

ithacaartist · 10-08-2013, 10:36 AM

Hi Eric,

In the bottom photo, it appears that the dovetails graduate in size, getting bigger towards the top of the joint. I think it is a nice touch, lending more strength to the bottoms of the joints, where it would be needed. Or is it an optical artifact from the lens, and they all actually measure the same? If graduated, is this an indicator of originality?

David

cirelaw · 10-08-2013, 11:22 AM

Years back Jerry, George Anderson and a few others set out to engineer and actually used an original to build a perfect copy. Heres mine!

LU1900 · 10-09-2013, 02:10 PM

If you can have a look here :
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It will be nice for me to have a pic from the manufacturer/maker for my data
Thanks

10-07-2013, 09:44 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Jerry Burney Original He will provide a description. ^Yes Its Real!~~~~Eric First off this is IMO an original P-Kasten box. It has an age that would be impossible to fake. I made several observations immediately. The cross bars on the top lid..they appear to be the only wood that is different. These are oak! Very evident from the grain. Also they were carefully routed with a nice smooth edge! The entire box appears to be made of clear pine. The top even shows a line of heart! Only an end handle piece has a few small knots. Too the bottom has 14 flathead screws holding it on. I can find no evidence of any nails having been used on the bottom. The side carry handles have been screwed on with dome head screws rather than flatheads. There are 2 screw holes in the bottom..these were likely for the loader block. The handle in the top is absolutely flush with the wood top. The hardware is made of very light gauge steel.. In particular the plate under the handle. It is very light gauge. The corners are very tightly mortised..8 for a total of 16. The carry handle is set with 6 large head rivets. The side carry handles have a bent stop. In one of the photo’s you can see behind the front board where the little stops were chisled out. The remnants are quite evident! The hasps are also very light steel. The clasps portion of the hasps are very different. Smaller backing and they are stamped steel not round bent wire. The color is very interesting..more of an olive drab than anything else. The wood walls and top are quite thin as well..I have not measured them yet. The rivets in the top lid, hinge and hasps there are 3 of them are set absolutely flush. These boxes were meant to be stacked without metal rubbing! The only marking I found on it is apparently the maker mark, LINCKE & Co. The lettering above that is hard to make out? Something fabric Munchen. Attached Thumbnails

10-08-2013, 10:36 AM	#2
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,283 Thanks: 7,007 Thanked 2,476 Times in 1,319 Posts	Hi Eric, In the bottom photo, it appears that the dovetails graduate in size, getting bigger towards the top of the joint. I think it is a nice touch, lending more strength to the bottoms of the joints, where it would be needed. Or is it an optical artifact from the lens, and they all actually measure the same? If graduated, is this an indicator of originality? David __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

10-08-2013, 11:22 AM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Years back Jerry, George Anderson and a few others set out to engineer and actually used an original to build a perfect copy. Heres mine! Attached Thumbnails

10-09-2013, 02:10 PM	#4
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 900 Thanks: 35 Thanked 461 Times in 193 Posts	If you can have a look here : http://translate.google.fr/translate...108293&act=url / It will be nice for me to have a pic from the manufacturer/maker for my data Thanks __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/