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ttarp · 09-12-2017, 06:35 PM

Beaumont, Orange, and Port Arthur, Texas used to be called the Golden Triangle, just a local thing, I don't usually put locations down on forums, just did it on a whim. I'll change it to S.E. Texas.

For me the draw to Interarms is its a newer pistol with less history attached to it, I won't fret and worry about parts breaking every time I shoot it. Not saying the originals are super delicate and easily broken, I'll just have better peace of mind not risking damaging a piece of history. Am I taking that thought too far?

I appreciate the input.

mrerick · 09-12-2017, 06:52 PM

WW-II Era Lugers are well made, and have excellent metallurgy. They hold up well. Of course, any pistol can experience breakage.

My shooter is a Mauser S/42 WW-II Luger - all matching - with finish condition issues...

- - - -

On the magazine, I must have mixed up comptability issues with the Aimco pistols. I thought I remembered that there were subtle differences in the Mauser Interarms guns.,..

DonVoigt · 09-12-2017, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ttarp

Beaumont, Orange, and Port Arthur, Texas used to be called the Golden Triangle, just a local thing, I don't usually put locations down on forums, just did it on a whim. I'll change it to S.E. Texas.

For me the draw to Interarms is its a newer pistol with less history attached to it, I won't fret and worry about parts breaking every time I shoot it. Not saying the originals are super delicate and easily broken, I'll just have better peace of mind not risking damaging a piece of history. Am I taking that thought too far?

I appreciate the input.

If you do break a part, they are even harder to find(Interarms that is)!

Yes, you are worrying too much- JMHO.

DWM and Erfurt lugers are quite well made also, and served for scores of years in tough environments and many firings without problems.

Marc, thinks the Mausers are better- I think they are just different.

Use standard US 9mm loadings and not +P or Nato rounds and you will be fine. Parts can break eventually on any pistol, some right out of the box. Parts are plentiful for original lugers, that should say something about survivability in itself.

Just buy your first luger, which ever comes along first in good shape at a good price- and enjoy it!

ttarp · 09-12-2017, 09:26 PM

Thanks for the reality check. I've had a lot of preconceived notions about Lugers that I've been learning over the last couple of years were completely false, still working through some of them.

cirelaw · 09-12-2017, 10:05 PM

Welcome to Luger University where you will find Luger Doctorates sharing decades of actual luger subject matter. It includes both research sections as well as the worlds largest luger sourcs at your touch. Thousands of posts with wonderful luger pictures!There are luger professors on line who actually wrote books on the subject you seek! You can raise your hand at any time day or night. Ask away because that is how you learn to love and feed your luger addiction! Someone is always here worldwide! You don't always have to read through ten thousand topics for your one question! Mearly post in in an appropriate section. You can send a private message to another member if they allow as most do. Just remember your manners and respect. Respectively Submitted Eric~

RShaw · 09-13-2017, 01:54 AM

"If you do break a part, they are even harder to find(Interarms that is)!

Yes, you are worrying too much- JMHO."

I think I am worrying too much too after breaking the holdopen in my shooter. It's a SHOOTER after all. Take care of it, enjoy it and stop fussing. I'm talking to myself here. BUT.. I'm not shooting a collector piece. To preserve history; no ttarp, you're not taking that thought too far at all.
Don, mrerick, thanks - your points are well taken.

Sergio Natali · 09-13-2017, 02:00 AM

Welcome to our forum.

If I were you I would look for a fairly recent caliber 9 Para MAUSER P08 made in 1942, you probably can find a nice "Russian capture" for a good price.

Safe shooting.

rhuff · 09-13-2017, 02:40 PM

Great info above. I own original Lugers, and post war Parabellum Lugers. I shoot all of my Lugers, as I don't own any rare Lugers. The Mec-Gar mags work 100% in all of my Lugers. Just find a nice Luger that you feel like you can afford, and desire, and go for it!!! It likely will not end up being your only Luger.

RShaw · 09-13-2017, 03:02 PM

Rhuff: Very true.
The Mec Gar mag I have for my shooter has been faultless so far. I have two Lugers right now, a collector 1917 DWM all matching including grips and 1 mag- that gun I don't shoot.

My shooter is a 1918 DWM, reblued, a beautiful gun, which WAS all matching until I broke the holdopen the other day.

But... I bought it to shoot, and shoot it I will!!

At heart I am more a shooter than a collector, although I do very much appreciate the value of collecting those special collector pieces, which, in my opinion, should not be shot. (Collector, IMO, = original finish, all matching, "pretty close to original factory condition")
Once a part in an all matching gun breaks, it breaks, and the gun is compromised. A pity really. As one person aptly said, "They just ain't makin' these things no mo' "

BUT, it's WONDERFUL to have shooters to SHOOT!!

JMHO. I know... now I'm rambling....

cirelaw · 09-13-2017, 04:34 PM

Bob are there many lugers in the Netherlands?

RShaw · 09-13-2017, 04:52 PM

"Bob are there many lugers in the Netherlands?"

In my experience of keeping my eye out for these guns (about 10 months), there are relatively few. The collector DWM which I ended up buying I saw on the shelf of a gunsmith / friend who lives about 3-4 miles from our house, while the shooter I now have I bought from a forum friend. Other than these two.... I have only seen two others, a Swiss 7.65 mm also for sale by a collector here in the area (a beautiful gun... rig I should say... I'm still pondering that one), and a badly abused P08 in a gunshop south of here- significantly damaged grips, rather "beat up" really, asking price was Eu 1075. Badly overpriced IMO.

That's it really.
There is a well recognized NL website for selling firearms; all kinds of guns come and go through there... but a Luger only pops up very occasionally. Same basically true for 1911's, P38's, and other WWI and WWII classics.

Probably there are far more here in NL.... but not for sale. Also, people tend to be rather secretive about the guns they own, it's not a subject which is widely discussed here at all. Only a small community actively collects and shoots firearms here... nothing like the press guns are getting in the US, not even close.

Basically- Lugers are not easy to come by here.

You are fortunate in the US re. availability of these and other unique masterpieces of engineering... but I do think prices in the US are about 10-15% higher than they are here from what I have seen and from conversations I have had.

cirelaw · 09-13-2017, 06:32 PM

You are absolutely right and better yet they are much easier to divorce!!

mccaslyn · 09-13-2017, 06:42 PM

I have a 42 dated mauser thats matching besides the toggle train. After replacing the hold open spring ive shot about 800 rounds so far thru her with mecgar mags with no malfunctions whatso ever accurate aswell. Lugers are an itch you cant scratch and im already looking for an erfurt or dwm shooter

RShaw · 09-13-2017, 06:45 PM

Mccaslyn:
Ahhh very nice!
What ammo are you using?
I know what you mean....

mccaslyn · 09-14-2017, 12:16 AM

I bought alot of bulk lax ammo just standard 115gr brass. But have also shot remmington. Wwb. Perfecta and federal and all have worked excellent. Perfecta i had to stop because it seemed to have alot of flash and was pretty hot so it made me a little nervous haha.

09-12-2017, 06:52 PM	#22
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	WW-II Era Lugers are well made, and have excellent metallurgy. They hold up well. Of course, any pistol can experience breakage. My shooter is a Mauser S/42 WW-II Luger - all matching - with finish condition issues... - - - - On the magazine, I must have mixed up comptability issues with the Aimco pistols. I thought I remembered that there were subtle differences in the Mauser Interarms guns.,.. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

09-13-2017, 01:54 AM	#26
RShaw User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Venlo, the Netherlands Posts: 350 Thanks: 160 Thanked 170 Times in 90 Posts	"If you do break a part, they are even harder to find(Interarms that is)! Yes, you are worrying too much- JMHO." I think I am worrying too much too after breaking the holdopen in my shooter. It's a SHOOTER after all. Take care of it, enjoy it and stop fussing. I'm talking to myself here. BUT.. I'm not shooting a collector piece. To preserve history; no ttarp, you're not taking that thought too far at all. Don, mrerick, thanks - your points are well taken. Last edited by RShaw; 09-13-2017 at 05:02 PM.

09-13-2017, 02:00 AM	#27
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Welcome to our forum. If I were you I would look for a fairly recent caliber 9 Para MAUSER P08 made in 1942, you probably can find a nice "Russian capture" for a good price. Safe shooting. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

09-13-2017, 02:40 PM	#28
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,270 Thanks: 2,686 Thanked 958 Times in 704 Posts	Great info above. I own original Lugers, and post war Parabellum Lugers. I shoot all of my Lugers, as I don't own any rare Lugers. The Mec-Gar mags work 100% in all of my Lugers. Just find a nice Luger that you feel like you can afford, and desire, and go for it!!! It likely will not end up being your only Luger. __________________ Need DWM breechblock #21

09-13-2017, 03:02 PM	#29
RShaw User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Venlo, the Netherlands Posts: 350 Thanks: 160 Thanked 170 Times in 90 Posts	Rhuff: Very true. The Mec Gar mag I have for my shooter has been faultless so far. I have two Lugers right now, a collector 1917 DWM all matching including grips and 1 mag- that gun I don't shoot. My shooter is a 1918 DWM, reblued, a beautiful gun, which WAS all matching until I broke the holdopen the other day. But... I bought it to shoot, and shoot it I will!! At heart I am more a shooter than a collector, although I do very much appreciate the value of collecting those special collector pieces, which, in my opinion, should not be shot. (Collector, IMO, = original finish, all matching, "pretty close to original factory condition") Once a part in an all matching gun breaks, it breaks, and the gun is compromised. A pity really. As one person aptly said, "They just ain't makin' these things no mo' " BUT, it's WONDERFUL to have shooters to SHOOT!! JMHO. I know... now I'm rambling.... __________________ Enjoying any firearm is like staying happily married- take her out on a regular basis, treat her with respect and pay attention to proper maintenance. Looking for magazine no. 7097 Venlo, the Netherlands- RShaw Last edited by RShaw; 09-13-2017 at 04:54 PM.

09-12-2017, 06:35 PM	#21
ttarp User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: S.E. Texas Posts: 24 Thanks: 11 Thanked 15 Times in 10 Posts	Beaumont, Orange, and Port Arthur, Texas used to be called the Golden Triangle, just a local thing, I don't usually put locations down on forums, just did it on a whim. I'll change it to S.E. Texas. For me the draw to Interarms is its a newer pistol with less history attached to it, I won't fret and worry about parts breaking every time I shoot it. Not saying the originals are super delicate and easily broken, I'll just have better peace of mind not risking damaging a piece of history. Am I taking that thought too far? I appreciate the input.

09-12-2017, 09:26 PM	#24
ttarp User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: S.E. Texas Posts: 24 Thanks: 11 Thanked 15 Times in 10 Posts	Thanks for the reality check. I've had a lot of preconceived notions about Lugers that I've been learning over the last couple of years were completely false, still working through some of them.

09-12-2017, 10:05 PM	#25
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Welcome to Luger University where you will find Luger Doctorates sharing decades of actual luger subject matter. It includes both research sections as well as the worlds largest luger sourcs at your touch. Thousands of posts with wonderful luger pictures!There are luger professors on line who actually wrote books on the subject you seek! You can raise your hand at any time day or night. Ask away because that is how you learn to love and feed your luger addiction! Someone is always here worldwide! You don't always have to read through ten thousand topics for your one question! Mearly post in in an appropriate section. You can send a private message to another member if they allow as most do. Just remember your manners and respect. Respectively Submitted Eric~

09-13-2017, 04:34 PM	#30
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Bob are there many lugers in the Netherlands?

09-13-2017, 04:52 PM	#31
RShaw User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Venlo, the Netherlands Posts: 350 Thanks: 160 Thanked 170 Times in 90 Posts	"Bob are there many lugers in the Netherlands?" In my experience of keeping my eye out for these guns (about 10 months), there are relatively few. The collector DWM which I ended up buying I saw on the shelf of a gunsmith / friend who lives about 3-4 miles from our house, while the shooter I now have I bought from a forum friend. Other than these two.... I have only seen two others, a Swiss 7.65 mm also for sale by a collector here in the area (a beautiful gun... rig I should say... I'm still pondering that one), and a badly abused P08 in a gunshop south of here- significantly damaged grips, rather "beat up" really, asking price was Eu 1075. Badly overpriced IMO. That's it really. There is a well recognized NL website for selling firearms; all kinds of guns come and go through there... but a Luger only pops up very occasionally. Same basically true for 1911's, P38's, and other WWI and WWII classics. Probably there are far more here in NL.... but not for sale. Also, people tend to be rather secretive about the guns they own, it's not a subject which is widely discussed here at all. Only a small community actively collects and shoots firearms here... nothing like the press guns are getting in the US, not even close. Basically- Lugers are not easy to come by here. You are fortunate in the US re. availability of these and other unique masterpieces of engineering... but I do think prices in the US are about 10-15% higher than they are here from what I have seen and from conversations I have had. __________________ Enjoying any firearm is like staying happily married- take her out on a regular basis, treat her with respect and pay attention to proper maintenance. Looking for magazine no. 7097 Venlo, the Netherlands- RShaw Last edited by RShaw; 09-13-2017 at 06:37 PM.

09-13-2017, 06:32 PM	#32
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	You are absolutely right and better yet they are much easier to divorce!!

09-13-2017, 06:42 PM	#33
mccaslyn User Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 84 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	I have a 42 dated mauser thats matching besides the toggle train. After replacing the hold open spring ive shot about 800 rounds so far thru her with mecgar mags with no malfunctions whatso ever accurate aswell. Lugers are an itch you cant scratch and im already looking for an erfurt or dwm shooter

09-13-2017, 06:45 PM	#34
RShaw User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Venlo, the Netherlands Posts: 350 Thanks: 160 Thanked 170 Times in 90 Posts	Mccaslyn: Ahhh very nice! What ammo are you using? I know what you mean....

09-14-2017, 12:16 AM	#35
mccaslyn User Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 84 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	I bought alot of bulk lax ammo just standard 115gr brass. But have also shot remmington. Wwb. Perfecta and federal and all have worked excellent. Perfecta i had to stop because it seemed to have alot of flash and was pretty hot so it made me a little nervous haha.