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kress · 11-05-2014, 04:32 PM

I would really would appreciate help identify this Mauser Obendorf P08 9x19. This is the only picture I have.

sheepherder · 11-05-2014, 06:10 PM

Is this one of the 1970's Mauser Lugers??? I never realized that the frame ear rails were so narrow...

alanint · 11-05-2014, 06:13 PM

Yes. A closer look at the serial number would net the year of production.

nukem556 · 11-05-2014, 09:15 PM

I always wondered why they did that with the ears.....why not make it look like the original P08s?

Edward Tinker · 11-05-2014, 10:23 PM

The original plan was to be like the P08, then they started to make them like the Swiss, then they were mad that people did not go down that path, then they made the P08 design

all discussed in Gerben and Mauro's book

lugerholsterrepair · 11-05-2014, 10:42 PM

Take a close look at the mag release..deep dark pitting or what?

kress · 11-06-2014, 01:44 AM

Thank you all for this information!

kress · 11-06-2014, 01:46 AM

Would you say that the quality of this gun is not as good as of a Mauser P08 from the early 1940?

DavidJayUden · 11-06-2014, 08:06 AM

I'm not sure it would be safe to say that at all. In some ways these are probably better. But less human hands-on fit and finish time. Better metals, modernized manufacture, no war-time expedience or slave labor, etc. Certainly not as much hands-on time, care, etc. as the old DWM guns.
It really comes down to personal preference. Everyone will have their own opinion and they will all be correct too.
dju

alanint · 11-06-2014, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Take a close look at the mag release..deep dark pitting or what?

I would say that those are small flecks of wood from a less than perfect relief cut for the mag release on the grips, Jerry.

sheepherder · 11-06-2014, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanint

Yes. A closer look at the serial number would net the year of production.

Looks like 11.010097

Lugerdoc · 11-06-2014, 09:40 AM

Kress, I first thought that your photo was of a postwar Mauser 06/73, but I don't see the normal grip safety. There were some commeratives and target models made without the grip safety, but I also don't see the normal additional markings for either of those. Some additional photos of the left side and rear grip strap area, would clarify identification. TH

mrerick · 11-06-2014, 10:13 AM

These Lugers were very well made. I doubt any corners were cut in their manufacture. They cost so much to manufacture that Mauser really could not sustain a business making them. They had to be priced well out of the market.

Ultimately, the last ones survived as commemorative models that could be priced for an adequate profit.

I have two, and they have excellent metallurgy, fit, finish and show quality workmanship.

All that said, they are not military firearms, and fill another collector niche.

hayhugh · 11-06-2014, 10:55 AM

What then, would be the correct terminology to use when looking for more info on these guns?

alanint · 11-06-2014, 11:10 AM

We generally refer to these as "Post War Mausers" or "1970s Mausers".

DavidJayUden · 11-06-2014, 01:19 PM

Or try "Mauser Parabellum".

11-05-2014, 04:32 PM	#1
kress User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Stockholm Posts: 23 Thanks: 6 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	indentify I would really would appreciate help identify this Mauser Obendorf P08 9x19. This is the only picture I have.

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sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,181 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,438 Times in 2,327 Posts	Is this one of the 1970's Mauser Lugers??? I never realized that the frame ear rails were so narrow... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	The original plan was to be like the P08, then they started to make them like the Swiss, then they were mad that people did not go down that path, then they made the P08 design all discussed in Gerben and Mauro's book __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

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lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Take a close look at the mag release..deep dark pitting or what? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-06-2014, 09:40 AM	#12
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Kress, I first thought that your photo was of a postwar Mauser 06/73, but I don't see the normal grip safety. There were some commeratives and target models made without the grip safety, but I also don't see the normal additional markings for either of those. Some additional photos of the left side and rear grip strap area, would clarify identification. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

11-05-2014, 06:13 PM	#3
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Yes. A closer look at the serial number would net the year of production.

11-05-2014, 09:15 PM	#4
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	I always wondered why they did that with the ears.....why not make it look like the original P08s?

11-06-2014, 01:44 AM	#7
kress User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Stockholm Posts: 23 Thanks: 6 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Thank you all for this information!

11-06-2014, 01:46 AM	#8
kress User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Stockholm Posts: 23 Thanks: 6 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Would you say that the quality of this gun is not as good as of a Mauser P08 from the early 1940?

11-06-2014, 08:06 AM	#9
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I'm not sure it would be safe to say that at all. In some ways these are probably better. But less human hands-on fit and finish time. Better metals, modernized manufacture, no war-time expedience or slave labor, etc. Certainly not as much hands-on time, care, etc. as the old DWM guns. It really comes down to personal preference. Everyone will have their own opinion and they will all be correct too. dju

11-06-2014, 10:13 AM	#13
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	These Lugers were very well made. I doubt any corners were cut in their manufacture. They cost so much to manufacture that Mauser really could not sustain a business making them. They had to be priced well out of the market. Ultimately, the last ones survived as commemorative models that could be priced for an adequate profit. I have two, and they have excellent metallurgy, fit, finish and show quality workmanship. All that said, they are not military firearms, and fill another collector niche. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-06-2014, 10:55 AM	#14
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 882 Thanks: 848 Thanked 507 Times in 270 Posts	What then, would be the correct terminology to use when looking for more info on these guns?

11-06-2014, 11:10 AM	#15
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	We generally refer to these as "Post War Mausers" or "1970s Mausers".

11-06-2014, 01:19 PM	#16
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Or try "Mauser Parabellum".