1942 BYF Mixmaster won't shoot! - Page 2

DonVoigt · 09-30-2015, 11:01 AM

Yes to what Kurusu showed.
Sometimes the ejector binds in the slot, you may have to remove it and do a little fitting with a fine file.

This occurs most often with aftermarket ejectors, but could plague any Luger.

sheepherder · 09-30-2015, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

This occurs most often with aftermarket ejectors...

Sounds like a Numrich ejector...

Also occurs when a new owner attempts to 'straw' the ejector and it loses its temper and takes a 'set'...

kurusu · 09-30-2015, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Sounds like a Numrich ejector...

Also occurs when a new owner attempts to 'straw' the ejector and it loses its temper and takes a 'set'...

Also occurs when it's about to break.

It doesn't look like a new part.

John Sabato · 09-30-2015, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Yes to what Kurusu showed.
Sometimes the ejector binds in the slot, you may have to remove it and do a little fitting with a fine file.

This occurs most often with aftermarket ejectors, but could plague any Luger.

I wouldn't use a file for this, no matter how fine, it will be difficult on such a hard part as the ejector.

A fine grit emery paper on a known flat surface (such as glass or machined steel) will work wonders on polishing the contact surfaces (top and bottom) of the ejector until it moves smoothly in the upper receiver.

Also check the breechblock for burrs in the ejector slot that might inhibit free movement.

Lugerdoc · 09-30-2015, 12:42 PM

K, Your photos do show an ejector installed. I agree with Karl, that it may be sticking and not free to move in & out enough. I do have both vg to exc original ejectors in stock in the $50 to $75 range, but even these may require fitting to your pistol. Tom

DonVoigt · 09-30-2015, 02:04 PM

True on a file, but these ejectors are not always "hard" though maybe they should be.

One can also use a diamond embedded needle file, they come in pretty handy for small spots too.

Polishing after goes without saying, but I should/could have said so!.

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sabato

I wouldn't use a file for this, no matter how fine, it will be difficult on such a hard part as the ejector.

A fine grit emery paper on a known flat surface (such as glass or machined steel) will work wonders on polishing the contact surfaces (top and bottom) of the ejector until it moves smoothly in the upper receiver.

Also check the breechblock for burrs in the ejector slot that might inhibit free movement.

3Horses · 09-30-2015, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

I guess the test would be to use a dummy round, or maybe an empty hull, chamber it and then pull back the toggle to see if the rim hits the ejector hits it and ejects it.
dju

Used a dummy round. When I pull back the toggle, the ejector goes right past the shell. DOES NOT HIT IT!
I took apart and cleaned all the innards, then emery clothed the edges, put in upside down and it slides in the slot no problem.
Still does not touch the shell rim.
I believe this is the problem, agreed?
Thanks for your help.
Terry

DonVoigt · 09-30-2015, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3Horses

Used a dummy round. When I pull back the toggle, the ejector goes right past the shell. DOES NOT HIT IT!
I took apart and cleaned all the innards, then emery clothed the edges, put in upside down and it slides in the slot no problem.
Still does not touch the shell rim.
I believe this is the problem, agreed?
Thanks for your help.
Terry

Yes, that is a problem if not the problem.

Only one thing, you can't put the ejector in "upside down".,,,

DavidJayUden · 09-30-2015, 10:41 PM

Does the front of the ejector spring flex inward with each shot? If not there may be gunk behind it.
See KURUSU's photos on page one.
dju

kurusu · 10-01-2015, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3Horses

Used a dummy round. When I pull back the toggle, the ejector goes right past the shell. DOES NOT HIT IT!
I took apart and cleaned all the innards, then emery clothed the edges, put in upside down and it slides in the slot no problem.
Still does not touch the shell rim.
I believe this is the problem, agreed?
Thanks for your help.
Terry

Yes. That seems to be the problem. I believe, from your pictures, that the ejector in your pistol might have reached the end of its useful life. And that Lugerdoc is offering the best solution to you problem

3Horses · 10-02-2015, 07:36 PM

Just so happens a buddy of mine has a friend with a luger. We put his extractor on my pistol, and bingo. Shot 50-60 rds thru her. Groups GREAT! Functions just fine! Even the OLD, original Nazi magazine shoots real well! Thought at first it was a magazine problem.
Got an original EFURT extractor from ebay 45.00 shipped. From Columbia, MO. Is that Lugerdoc?
Thanks so much for all your help here! It is so fun to get a gun up and running!
And actually, It shoots my reloads, with NO PROBLEM!
take care Terry

DonVoigt · 10-05-2015, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3Horses

Just so happens a buddy of mine has a friend with a luger. We put his extractor on my pistol, and bingo. Shot 50-60 rds thru her. Groups GREAT! Functions just fine! Even the OLD, original Nazi magazine shoots real well! Thought at first it was a magazine problem.
Got an original EFURT extractor from ebay 45.00 shipped. From Columbia, MO. Is that Lugerdoc?
Thanks so much for all your help here! It is so fun to get a gun up and running!
And actually, It shoots my reloads, with NO PROBLEM!
take care Terry

Extractor or EJECTOR???

Extractor didn't seem to be a problem???

3Horses · 10-05-2015, 05:21 PM

Ejector is the problem, sorry about that!
Boy, I get one thing on my mind and it just stays there!
This ejector, if I kind of bend it acts like its going to snap in half. You can just feel the metal separating. Has no spring what so ever.
Terry
Bought one from Lugerdoc, that he had on ebay. Original for 45.00 shipped.

DonVoigt · 10-05-2015, 08:45 PM

Thanks it makes sense now.
Glad your problem is solved!

kurusu · 10-06-2015, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Thanks it makes sense now.
Glad your problem is solved!

Ditto.

Lugerdoc · 10-06-2015, 09:56 AM

3H, The one that you purchased wasn't from me. Hopefully it is an original. TH

rhuff · 10-06-2015, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3Horses

Got an original EFURT extractor from ebay 45.00 shipped. From Columbia, MO. Is that Lugerdoc?

This was posted by the OP earlier in this thread.

3Horses · 10-07-2015, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Sounds like a Numrich ejector...

Also occurs when a new owner attempts to 'straw' the ejector and it loses its temper and takes a 'set'...

Please tell me what "STRAW" the ejector means?
I've read this several times now, learning about these pistols.
Thanks for the info lesson!
TerryR

3Horses · 10-07-2015, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

3H, The one that you purchased wasn't from me. Hopefully it is an original. TH

Lugerdoc, sorry about that, I thought it was you. I asked on the AR15 forum, as I'm dealing with the seller of this pistol to help compensate, as he sold me a pistol that doesn't operate. I'm now figuring out why from you guys here.
Yes, the ejector, is a efurt one. He's selling as it as original used.
Hope I did ok here?
TerryR
Still not recvd yet, was to be here yesterday.

ithacaartist · 10-08-2015, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3Horses

Please tell me what "STRAW" the ejector means?
I've read this several times now, learning about these pistols.
Thanks for the info lesson!
TerryR

Terry,

The color that steel's surface molecules turn depends on the temperature to which it is heated. "Straw" is one of the colors on this spectrum, at the low end. It was used until early 1937 as standard treatment of certain small parts on German military Lugers. It was a classy cosmetic accent from the beginning, but abandoned due to concerns of expense and time when Germany needed lots of guns, fast. There are stickies somewhere on our site that explain how to do it. It is true Toaster Oven Magic.

09-30-2015, 12:42 PM	#25
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	K, Your photos do show an ejector installed. I agree with Karl, that it may be sticking and not free to move in & out enough. I do have both vg to exc original ejectors in stock in the $50 to $75 range, but even these may require fitting to your pistol. Tom __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-06-2015, 09:56 AM	#36
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	3H, The one that you purchased wasn't from me. Hopefully it is an original. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

09-30-2015, 11:01 AM	#21
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	Yes to what Kurusu showed. Sometimes the ejector binds in the slot, you may have to remove it and do a little fitting with a fine file. This occurs most often with aftermarket ejectors, but could plague any Luger.

09-30-2015, 10:41 PM	#29
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Does the front of the ejector spring flex inward with each shot? If not there may be gunk behind it. See KURUSU's photos on page one. dju

10-02-2015, 07:36 PM	#31
3Horses User Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 20 Thanks: 19 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Just so happens a buddy of mine has a friend with a luger. We put his extractor on my pistol, and bingo. Shot 50-60 rds thru her. Groups GREAT! Functions just fine! Even the OLD, original Nazi magazine shoots real well! Thought at first it was a magazine problem. Got an original EFURT extractor from ebay 45.00 shipped. From Columbia, MO. Is that Lugerdoc? Thanks so much for all your help here! It is so fun to get a gun up and running! And actually, It shoots my reloads, with NO PROBLEM! take care Terry

10-05-2015, 05:21 PM	#33
3Horses User Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 20 Thanks: 19 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Ejector is the problem, sorry about that! Boy, I get one thing on my mind and it just stays there! This ejector, if I kind of bend it acts like its going to snap in half. You can just feel the metal separating. Has no spring what so ever. Terry Bought one from Lugerdoc, that he had on ebay. Original for 45.00 shipped.

10-05-2015, 08:45 PM	#34
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	Thanks it makes sense now. Glad your problem is solved!