What does the phrase ......

1969goatman · 03-06-2011, 07:48 PM

"If it's made after 1918 its a reproduction" mean?"

hgreer2 · 03-06-2011, 08:17 PM

Ask Ron.

Harry

Ron Wood · 03-06-2011, 08:29 PM

It's an attempt at humor. I am an Imperial Era collector. Prior to 1918, there were only two manufacturers of Lugers, DWM (original) and Erfurt (government arsenal under patent license to manufacture Lugers beginning 1910). After that time DWM ceased to exist (it became BKIW) and Lugers were no longer made by the original makers...hence "reproductions".

G.T. · 03-06-2011, 08:39 PM

Hi Ron, right idea, but just a slight adjustment needs to be made to your post 1918 phrase... It is actually a replica if made after 1918... a reproduction can only be truly re-made by DWM, or Erfurt, Orrrrrrrrrrrrr, the direct (as in original family name?? ) decendants of the original factory owners at the time of initial production?....

...What that really means.. no matter how good I get, I will only ever be able to make replica parts!!....

... Best to you Ron, as always, til...lat'r...GT... Actually, that might even make Erfurt a replica???

sheepherder · 03-06-2011, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

It's an attempt at humor...

I also have found that subtle attempts at humor often go unappreciated...I blame the anonymity of the Internet and [up to now] inability to view the speaker, to gauge his expression, to hear the tone of his voice...Emoticons just don't do justice to face-to-face emotional expression...

Ron Wood · 03-06-2011, 09:03 PM

G.T.
Reproduce: vt: to produce again…to cause to exist again or anew…to imitate closely…to make a representation (as an image or copy) of. I stand firmly by my assertion, Sir! (Which is my prerogative as a stubborn old goat

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G.T. · 03-06-2011, 11:02 PM

Hi Ron, I will conceed to your old goat status, and stand aside..

... As you well know, this discussion can now only be brought to a conclusion during one of your, always anticipated, and greatly appreciated visits! ...

.. Best to you Ron, til...lat'r....GT

Frank · 03-07-2011, 08:53 AM

Ron, GT actually any Luger made before 1934 were just pre-production trial pieces!!!

Vlim · 03-07-2011, 10:03 AM

...and I thought that the trial runs lasted until 1973, when Mauser finally stopped bumming around and produced a decent version

03-06-2011, 07:48 PM	#1
1969goatman Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What does the phrase ...... "If it's made after 1918 its a reproduction" mean?"

03-06-2011, 08:29 PM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	It's an attempt at humor. I am an Imperial Era collector. Prior to 1918, there were only two manufacturers of Lugers, DWM (original) and Erfurt (government arsenal under patent license to manufacture Lugers beginning 1910). After that time DWM ceased to exist (it became BKIW) and Lugers were no longer made by the original makers...hence "reproductions". __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-06-2011, 08:39 PM	#4
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,485 Thanks: 1,283 Thanked 3,581 Times in 989 Posts	Actually........ Hi Ron, right idea, but just a slight adjustment needs to be made to your post 1918 phrase... It is actually a replica if made after 1918... a reproduction can only be truly re-made by DWM, or Erfurt, Orrrrrrrrrrrrr, the direct (as in original family name?? ) decendants of the original factory owners at the time of initial production?.... ...What that really means.. no matter how good I get, I will only ever be able to make replica parts!!....... Best to you Ron, as always, til...lat'r...GT... Actually, that might even make Erfurt a replica???

03-06-2011, 09:03 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	G.T. Reproduce: vt: to produce again…to cause to exist again or anew…to imitate closely…to make a representation (as an image or copy) of. I stand firmly by my assertion, Sir! (Which is my prerogative as a stubborn old goat ) __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-06-2011, 11:02 PM	#7
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,485 Thanks: 1,283 Thanked 3,581 Times in 989 Posts	status... Hi Ron, I will conceed to your old goat status, and stand aside.. ... As you well know, this discussion can now only be brought to a conclusion during one of your, always anticipated, and greatly appreciated visits! ..... Best to you Ron, til...lat'r....GT

03-06-2011, 08:17 PM	#2
hgreer2 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 309 Thanks: 1 Thanked 29 Times in 20 Posts	Ask Ron. Harry

03-07-2011, 08:53 AM	#8
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Ron, GT actually any Luger made before 1934 were just pre-production trial pieces!!!

03-07-2011, 10:03 AM	#9
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	...and I thought that the trial runs lasted until 1973, when Mauser finally stopped bumming around and produced a decent version