One of these things is not like the other

KP Shooter · 06-13-2012, 07:00 PM

Hey:

I am new to the forums, as well as the Luger world. I just got my first luger a few days ago and I have a few questions that I am sure you guys could help with. My luger is a 1916 DWM nearly all matching, with the exception of the sideplate.

As you can see, my sideplate is neither numbered nor is it the same configuration as a normal luger sideplate. The dealer i bought it off of had never seen something like this before. My guess is that it is either a machined part or it came from another countrie's luger knockoff. I dont have anything to backup my ideas.

Anyone ever see this before, or know what it is?

Thanks!

lugerholsterrepair · 06-13-2012, 07:18 PM

Michael..What does the underside look like?

Ron Wood · 06-13-2012, 07:23 PM

Also, perhaps a photo of it installed on the gun. Judging from the apparent thickness of it, it may be a homemade or gunsmith's handmade replacement.

KP Shooter · 06-22-2012, 09:21 PM

Hey, sorry, I have been away from the computer for a while. Ive added a few more pictures, please let me know what you think.
Also, how much would having a non matching sideplate like this kill the value? Everything else is matching, with the execption of the wood based mag

lugerholsterrepair · 06-22-2012, 09:29 PM

That is one weird sideplate! Value..A good replacement sideplate would run say..$100-150 I guess so value would be reduced by that. Then the pistol is STILL a mismatched shooter. IF it shoots at all with either sideplate. Ron says..it may be a homemade or gunsmith's handmade replacement. I would have to concur with this assesment but I have to say it would really take some effort to produce that thing!
Does it work?

sheepherder · 06-22-2012, 09:35 PM

Doesn't look all that bad installed...needs some milling, maybe to make it look like a Swiss sideplate...If it works, then you've got a shooter...

KP Shooter · 06-22-2012, 10:37 PM

It works perfectly fine, great grouping at 20 yards. Doesnt seem to have any functional flaws. Have you ever seen anything like it? I have talked to tons of different people and nobody seems to know.

Edward Tinker · 06-22-2012, 11:01 PM

Has to be a handmade jobbie, no other ones like it that I've seen and on the forum, we've seen a lot

alanint · 06-23-2012, 10:10 AM

As your Luger is a DWM, you can go to the sideplate swap/buy thread and see if you can get one with the last two digits of your serial number on it.

lugerholsterrepair · 06-23-2012, 12:00 PM

Well..If it works I wouldn't change it! Kind of neat actually. Not often you see something that well made that functions like it should.
Even if you found another proper sideplate it might not work.

John Sabato · 06-25-2012, 12:29 PM

I concur that this is a gunsmith/machinist attempt at making a functional replacement sideplate... It appears very well made... On a shooter, I wouldn't bother to replace it if it works well.

padredan · 06-25-2012, 01:03 PM

roger that

Lugerdoc · 06-26-2012, 10:39 AM

Mike, I've seen a few other crude home-made side plates on some lugers that I've parted out. I agree if yours works OK and your luger has other mismatched parts, just enjoy it. If that's the only mismatched part, you would be justified in trying to fine a matching original. TH

06-13-2012, 07:00 PM	#1
KP Shooter User Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	One of these things is not like the other Hey: I am new to the forums, as well as the Luger world. I just got my first luger a few days ago and I have a few questions that I am sure you guys could help with. My luger is a 1916 DWM nearly all matching, with the exception of the sideplate. As you can see, my sideplate is neither numbered nor is it the same configuration as a normal luger sideplate. The dealer i bought it off of had never seen something like this before. My guess is that it is either a machined part or it came from another countrie's luger knockoff. I dont have anything to backup my ideas. Anyone ever see this before, or know what it is? Thanks! Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

06-13-2012, 07:18 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,933 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Michael..What does the underside look like? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-13-2012, 07:23 PM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	Also, perhaps a photo of it installed on the gun. Judging from the apparent thickness of it, it may be a homemade or gunsmith's handmade replacement. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-22-2012, 09:21 PM	#4
KP Shooter User Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey, sorry, I have been away from the computer for a while. Ive added a few more pictures, please let me know what you think. Also, how much would having a non matching sideplate like this kill the value? Everything else is matching, with the execption of the wood based mag Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

06-22-2012, 09:29 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,933 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	That is one weird sideplate! Value..A good replacement sideplate would run say..$100-150 I guess so value would be reduced by that. Then the pistol is STILL a mismatched shooter. IF it shoots at all with either sideplate. Ron says..it may be a homemade or gunsmith's handmade replacement. I would have to concur with this assesment but I have to say it would really take some effort to produce that thing! Does it work? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-22-2012, 09:35 PM	#6
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	Doesn't look all that bad installed...needs some milling, maybe to make it look like a Swiss sideplate...If it works, then you've got a shooter... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

06-22-2012, 10:37 PM	#7
KP Shooter User Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It works perfectly fine, great grouping at 20 yards. Doesnt seem to have any functional flaws. Have you ever seen anything like it? I have talked to tons of different people and nobody seems to know.

06-22-2012, 11:01 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	Has to be a handmade jobbie, no other ones like it that I've seen and on the forum, we've seen a lot __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-23-2012, 10:10 AM	#9
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	As your Luger is a DWM, you can go to the sideplate swap/buy thread and see if you can get one with the last two digits of your serial number on it.

06-23-2012, 12:00 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,933 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Well..If it works I wouldn't change it! Kind of neat actually. Not often you see something that well made that functions like it should. Even if you found another proper sideplate it might not work. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-25-2012, 12:29 PM	#11
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	I concur that this is a gunsmith/machinist attempt at making a functional replacement sideplate... It appears very well made... On a shooter, I wouldn't bother to replace it if it works well. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-25-2012, 01:03 PM	#12
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	roger that __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

06-26-2012, 10:39 AM	#13
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Mike, I've seen a few other crude home-made side plates on some lugers that I've parted out. I agree if yours works OK and your luger has other mismatched parts, just enjoy it. If that's the only mismatched part, you would be justified in trying to fine a matching original. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net