How Many Varieties of Eagle Lugers are there?

cirelaw · 10-20-2015, 02:50 PM

I believe the 1900 Test luger was the first. I don't know the final year? They are so unique and special~I don't know of any American firearm with a similar seal or beauty! Did production continue after the the first world war? Thank You!

Lugerdoc · 10-21-2015, 02:36 PM

In addition to the 7.65mm M1900AEs, DWM also made the M1906 eagles in both 7.65 & 9mm. As I recall, Stoeger special ordered a few AEs in the 1920s and of course the 1970s Mauser Parabellums. TH

cirelaw · 10-21-2015, 04:18 PM

Tom for your input! I believe the 1902 was the earliest 9mm~

Sergio Natali · 10-22-2015, 06:02 AM

Eric

FWIK they surely made the 1900 AE 3rd variation 1st series (with a thick knurled 10 mm safety lever and thin safety lever supplied I guess between 1901 and 1902; the 1900 AE 4th variation 2nd series with thick serrated 8mm safety lever and wide safety grip supplied around 1903/1904; and the 1900/06 AE New Model.
Then all the others as posted above.

Best,

Sergio

cirelaw · 10-22-2015, 09:44 AM

Sergio, that was pure genius to add and individual icon geared toward an individual market. These is by far two of my most beautiful lugers. The fat and test~

Mike B · 10-22-2015, 09:57 AM

There are a few Safe & Loaded with the Eagle. I had one several years ago.

Mike

cirelaw · 10-22-2015, 10:26 AM

Mike do you know when did DWM cease producing eagles? Why so many variatons? Was there a change in the luger?

Dwight Gruber · 10-22-2015, 11:04 AM

Eric,

DWM was putting the U.S. Great Seal on some Lugers right up to their production's end in 1930. The Stoeger marked pistols in the v suffix range are reported with them.

--Dwight

Dick Herman · 10-22-2015, 12:51 PM

There are also Luger carbines with the American Eagle Great Seal. I have a 1920 carbine without the fore stock with an AE.

cirelaw · 10-22-2015, 01:23 PM

Dick I'm sure that is a real beauty! I posted a thread in Land Of Borchardt which confirms the 1920 version was produced with left over part after the war. Only few are alike! Mine has a rear sight and hidden "GERMANY" import mark inside on one of the tongs. Can you maybe post a shot or two. I would love to see it! We are both lucky to own one of these beauties!!

ithacaartist · 10-22-2015, 01:49 PM

The last AE?

Sergio Natali · 10-22-2015, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

The last AE?

Really a nice gun!

Sergio

Dick Herman · 10-23-2015, 11:40 AM

Eric,

I did post my 1920 AE carbine previously.

Here is the post:

Go Back LugerForum Discussion Forums > Luger Discussion Forums > Commercial Lugers
Reload this Page 1920 Carbine, Less Forearm

I am sorry but I do not know how to get the proper link.

cirelaw · 10-23-2015, 11:51 AM

Thank, You are lucky man!! I'll find it! TKS

cirelaw · 10-26-2015, 07:29 PM

How many gunmakers were liscened to produce the eagles in the US. Did the luger patents expire?? Who produced the finest luger in America?

Dwight Gruber · 10-27-2015, 12:50 AM

"How many gunmakers were liscened to produce the eagles in the US?"

None.

"Did the luger patents expire??"

Yes.

"Who produced the finest luger in America?"

There are no American-produced Lugers. The Orimar/Mitchell/Stoeger stainless-steel Luger-alikes come the closest, followed by Mike Krause's CNC/handmade .45s.

--Dwight

cirelaw · 10-27-2015, 09:09 AM

Thank You Dwight. I did not know know that!! Eric

Diver6106 · 10-29-2015, 04:06 AM

I think the Mitchel Lugers are Lugers. And they have an American Eagle on the top, and so should be considered both. Obviously they are not the Eagles produced by Germany, but they are Eagle Lugers. Or is "everything after 1918 a reproduction."

Dick Herman · 10-30-2015, 11:38 AM

The pistols produced by SPM/AIMCO made for Stoeger and Mitchell look like, function like and shoot like Lugers. These examples even include the American Eagle marked on the breech.

IMHO these are evolutionary Lugers that have had the benefit of being manufactured with modern machine tools and materials.

My stainless steel Lugers shoot just like my "antique" Imperial Lugers. AN added benefit of the stainless steel Lugers is not having to be as concerned about immediately cleaning after shooting.

At this time stainless steel Lugers are under rated and offer new and older collectors an opportunity to enhance their collections.

CAP Black · 10-31-2015, 07:57 PM

I have one of the American made Stainless steel Lugers. Luger fans and even the public usually pay little attention to the stainless ones. I have displayed some of my collection at public functions and there is little interest in the stainless and it is a Navy model.
However, I like mine and consider it a part of my collection. I think it is really handsome and enjoy it. People can think what they will.
Jack

10-20-2015, 02:50 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	How Many Varieties of Eagle Lugers are there? I believe the 1900 Test luger was the first. I don't know the final year? They are so unique and special~I don't know of any American firearm with a similar seal or beauty! Did production continue after the the first world war? Thank You!

10-21-2015, 02:36 PM	#2
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	In addition to the 7.65mm M1900AEs, DWM also made the M1906 eagles in both 7.65 & 9mm. As I recall, Stoeger special ordered a few AEs in the 1920s and of course the 1970s Mauser Parabellums. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-21-2015, 04:18 PM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Tom for your input! I believe the 1902 was the earliest 9mm~ Attached Thumbnails

10-22-2015, 06:02 AM	#4
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Eric FWIK they surely made the 1900 AE 3rd variation 1st series (with a thick knurled 10 mm safety lever and thin safety lever supplied I guess between 1901 and 1902; the 1900 AE 4th variation 2nd series with thick serrated 8mm safety lever and wide safety grip supplied around 1903/1904; and the 1900/06 AE New Model. Then all the others as posted above. Best, Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

10-22-2015, 09:44 AM	#5
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Sergio, that was pure genius to add and individual icon geared toward an individual market. These is by far two of my most beautiful lugers. The fat and test~ Attached Thumbnails

10-22-2015, 09:57 AM	#6
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	There are a few Safe & Loaded with the Eagle. I had one several years ago. Mike

10-22-2015, 10:26 AM	#7
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Mike do you know when did DWM cease producing eagles? Why so many variatons? Was there a change in the luger?

10-22-2015, 11:04 AM	#8
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,317 Times in 431 Posts	Eric, DWM was putting the U.S. Great Seal on some Lugers right up to their production's end in 1930. The Stoeger marked pistols in the v suffix range are reported with them. --Dwight

10-22-2015, 12:51 PM	#9
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 354 Times in 138 Posts	There are also Luger carbines with the American Eagle Great Seal. I have a 1920 carbine without the fore stock with an AE.

10-22-2015, 01:23 PM	#10
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Dick I'm sure that is a real beauty! I posted a thread in Land Of Borchardt which confirms the 1920 version was produced with left over part after the war. Only few are alike! Mine has a rear sight and hidden "GERMANY" import mark inside on one of the tongs. Can you maybe post a shot or two. I would love to see it! We are both lucky to own one of these beauties!!

10-22-2015, 01:49 PM	#11
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,346 Thanks: 7,280 Thanked 2,578 Times in 1,365 Posts	The last AE? Attached Thumbnails __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

10-23-2015, 11:40 AM	#13
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 354 Times in 138 Posts	Eric, I did post my 1920 AE carbine previously. Here is the post: Go Back LugerForum Discussion Forums > Luger Discussion Forums > Commercial Lugers Reload this Page 1920 Carbine, Less Forearm I am sorry but I do not know how to get the proper link.

10-23-2015, 11:51 AM	#14
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank, You are lucky man!! I'll find it! TKS

10-26-2015, 07:29 PM	#15
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	How many gunmakers were liscened to produce the eagles in the US. Did the luger patents expire?? Who produced the finest luger in America?

10-27-2015, 12:50 AM	#16
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,317 Times in 431 Posts	"How many gunmakers were liscened to produce the eagles in the US?" None. "Did the luger patents expire??" Yes. "Who produced the finest luger in America?" There are no American-produced Lugers. The Orimar/Mitchell/Stoeger stainless-steel Luger-alikes come the closest, followed by Mike Krause's CNC/handmade .45s. --Dwight

10-27-2015, 09:09 AM	#17
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank You Dwight. I did not know know that!! Eric

10-29-2015, 04:06 AM	#18
Diver6106 User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Mt. Vernon VA Posts: 244 Thanks: 1,424 Thanked 117 Times in 75 Posts	I think the Mitchel Lugers are Lugers. And they have an American Eagle on the top, and so should be considered both. Obviously they are not the Eagles produced by Germany, but they are Eagle Lugers. Or is "everything after 1918 a reproduction."

10-30-2015, 11:38 AM	#19
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 354 Times in 138 Posts	The pistols produced by SPM/AIMCO made for Stoeger and Mitchell look like, function like and shoot like Lugers. These examples even include the American Eagle marked on the breech. IMHO these are evolutionary Lugers that have had the benefit of being manufactured with modern machine tools and materials. My stainless steel Lugers shoot just like my "antique" Imperial Lugers. AN added benefit of the stainless steel Lugers is not having to be as concerned about immediately cleaning after shooting. At this time stainless steel Lugers are under rated and offer new and older collectors an opportunity to enhance their collections.

10-31-2015, 07:57 PM	#20
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	I have one of the American made Stainless steel Lugers. Luger fans and even the public usually pay little attention to the stainless ones. I have displayed some of my collection at public functions and there is little interest in the stainless and it is a Navy model. However, I like mine and consider it a part of my collection. I think it is really handsome and enjoy it. People can think what they will. Jack